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Thoughtful diary, Ephemera.

A question, I've discussed with Izzy a number of times without reaching much of a conclusion is: are the "culture warriors" (for whom "anti-choice" is just part of a wider crusade) are on the rise in the UK?

I suppose this action shows that they are increasingly active against abortion, but do you think it's the beginning of a rise across a number of issues? Or is it just an unfortunate "perfect storm" of a set of spineless politicians at the top of the major parties who want to pander on abortion in particular?

by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Fri Mar 21st, 2008 at 08:06:21 AM EST
Really interesting question.  I think we are seeing backlash against what is perceived to be a left-wing domination and decline in moral values in society as a result.  

A lot has been said about equality, rights, integration, inclusion and immigration with defence and promotion of these values from the 'left'.

The right are reacting to that because of course it is all nonsense, the very fabric of our society is being torn apart by us putting foreigners before the welfare of our own citizens. These very foreigners who come into our country and take our jobs and scrounge off the state.  They are the scapegoats for a right wing who cannot see that many of the social problems that born and bred Brits face now are due to the attack on society and collective values under Thatcher. Not due to the current discourse of a society that is approached through a human rights and equality framework.

I guess the pro-lifers will always react to anything of this type when abortion is part of the debate, but I think it does form part of a wider realisation on the part of the right that they need to step up the drive to bring society back to being decent and moral again.

by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Mar 21st, 2008 at 08:36:12 AM EST
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The right are reacting to that because of course it is all nonsense, the very fabric of our society is being torn apart by us putting foreigners before the welfare of our own citizens. These very foreigners who come into our country and take our jobs and scrounge off the state.

Did you mean that the way it sounds?
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Fri Mar 21st, 2008 at 08:38:02 AM EST
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I was being sarcastic but I'll use this opportunity to say that is not my opinion but how I perceive the right wingers to view the issue.
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Mar 21st, 2008 at 02:26:46 PM EST
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The way it was phrased it wasn't exactly clear ...
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Fri Mar 21st, 2008 at 02:28:31 PM EST
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You know, I don't know. From my perspective it's always been like this, with a reasonably and fairly liberal set of laws on certain cultural issues being attacked by those who seemingly would like to wind the clock back. I would like to have been around in the 60s when there was a real culture war going on, and the laws on homosexuality, abortion, suicide, and probably others were changed.

As it is, I can't (politically) remember much before Tony Blair became PM, and the situation may be different if and when the Conservatives are elected, as they will probably behave differently in power, probably. It may be that the current situation is just an artefact of the Conservatives raising and maintaining their support among a certain slice of the population by these actions.

Member of the Anti-Fabulousness League since 1987.

by Ephemera on Fri Mar 21st, 2008 at 10:54:54 AM EST
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Ephemera:
As it is, I can't (politically) remember much before Tony Blair became PM,

Think yourself lucky ;-) Although you missed the anti poll tax campaigns, etc. etc.  which were bad times, but good times.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Mar 21st, 2008 at 02:50:06 PM EST
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