Can the Democrats re-unite? Who is really going to win the US Election (Part 7) | 64 comments (64 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)

Re: This whole subject makes me sad. (4.00 / 2)

I guess what Redstar is saying is that despite what many on the wonkosphere suggest, 2008 is not analogous to the 1932 election that brought FDR and the New Deal, but 2012 may well be as long as McCain wins in 2008. If a Democrat wins in 2008 they will be like Carter to Reagan in 2012.

It'd be nice if the battle were only against the right wingers, not half of the left on top of that — François in Paris

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Mar 27th, 2008 at 04:05:11 PM EST
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Re: This whole subject makes me sad. (4.00 / 2)

That's a fine, practical way of putting it.

I might further modify it to say it might be 2016, and the Democratic Party might no longer exist as it does today. If they were a business, you know, they'd have been sued for product liability and false advertising a long long time ago.

But I really am not as sanguine as many here about reform actually happening in the US. It's far too wealthy a place for the sort of crash we'd need to to weaken the ruling class hold on the place. And three generations of people who's civic education is, to say the least, pathetic...nope, I'm not hopeful.

The Hun is always either at your throat or at your feet. Winston Churchill

by r------ on Thu Mar 27th, 2008 at 04:49:01 PM EST
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Re: This whole subject makes me sad. (4.00 / 2)

I'm with the 'never' vote.

I mean, a good share of Nader supported had this notion that the Bush disaster would set the democratic party and the country straight. Are we now going to talk about 'Nader units' (after 4 more years of Republican-led disaster, America will turn the corner)?

It's time to embrace incrementalism.

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Thu Mar 27th, 2008 at 09:10:06 PM EST
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Re: This whole subject makes me sad. (none / 0)

You've got to start somewhere, and now and here is better than a future that is ultimately unpredictable.

"It's a mystery to me - the game commences, For the usual fee - plus expenses, Confidential information - it's in my diary..."

by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Thu Mar 27th, 2008 at 09:54:15 PM EST
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Can the Democrats re-unite? Who is really going to win the US Election (Part 7) | 64 comments (64 topical, 0 editorial, 0 hidden)

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