I might further modify it to say it might be 2016, and the Democratic Party might no longer exist as it does today. If they were a business, you know, they'd have been sued for product liability and false advertising a long long time ago.

But I really am not as sanguine as many here about reform actually happening in the US. It's far too wealthy a place for the sort of crash we'd need to to weaken the ruling class hold on the place. And three generations of people who's civic education is, to say the least, pathetic...nope, I'm not hopeful.

The Hun is always either at your throat or at your feet. Winston Churchill