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the need to bring in splitter parties to gain majority doesn't require more than the formation of smaller pre-election coalitions (miriad of examples across the new EU members).

I realise the current Hungarian parliament exhibits an example that can be (and many did) consider a short-circuiting of democracy. In the last elections, the main opposition party Fidesz actually ran as one element of a pre-election coalition, with the Christian Democrats. By the 21st century, the latter became a micro-party with unmeasurable (<1%) popular support, but for whatever propaganda and split-percentage reason Fidesz thought they need them, thus giving them a lot of both list places and direct mandate candidacies. Once in parliament, the Fidesz-piggybacking Christian Democrats were so numerous they had the numbers to form a faction, and local laws permit the separation of election coalitions. Due to extra seats in parliamentary commissions, that's what they did.

The differences with the voes of the Italian Left are that (1) right-wing voters never had much trouble with any candidate endorsed by their voters, anywhere in the world, (2) at least in the open, these spineless Christian Democrats are über-loyal to Fidesz, they don't backmail like UDEUR et al (though who knows, maybe there's more to Fidesz's occasional clericalism than propaganda considerations).

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A stranger example of proportional voting not reflecting people's real choices, but that wil full cooperation of the voter, is when voters of a larger party 'save' a minor coalition partner from falling under 5%, to keep coalition majority. This was a frequent feature with CDU (Christian Democrat) voters and the FDP (FRee Democrat) party in Germany, and also happened here (with Socialists saving the local Free Democrats), but I don't know of any other countries.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Mon Mar 31st, 2008 at 02:43:03 PM EST
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Thanks for the helpful feedback on this. I'll discuss tomorrow some of the mechanisms in Italy that I see appear elsewhere as well as what may be unique in the Italian system.

One point you've mentioned

[...](1) right-wing voters never had much trouble with any candidate endorsed by their voters, anywhere in the world, [...]

is of particular interest (I think you meant endorsed by their party). The differences in mentality between the right and the left.

by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Mon Mar 31st, 2008 at 04:12:15 PM EST
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