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Very very cool.

I guaranteed I'd break it though. I break the composite ones, roughly one a year.

The Hun is always either at your throat or at your feet. Winston Churchill

by r------ on Wed Apr 16th, 2008 at 06:40:10 PM EST
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good quality steel frame is the way to go - durable, comfortable and the price/quality ratio is great.

by MarekNYC on Wed Apr 16th, 2008 at 06:49:44 PM EST
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ABS - Bamboo Bicycle

But Flavio makes me see things differently: Bamboo is a resource of immense potential. And it is strong too. What makes it possible to build bicycles from it is that it is stronger than steel when strained in the longitudinal direction, 17% to be exact.

So steel joints and bamboo shafts?

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Apr 16th, 2008 at 06:52:52 PM EST
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i hear you, but i actually broke one of those a few years back that i was spring training on. a bianchi, so not crap. always break them on the seat tube right above the bottom bracket.

prefer aluminum though. twitchier, more responsive, crisper cornering, feel the road better, and also these days cheaper than, or at least comparable to, a good steel frame. plus, recyclable. I just recycled one a month ago.

steel is a good ride too, softer, more forgiving on the back (fortunately mine's good anyhow) but it's usually too heavy to race on.

The Hun is always either at your throat or at your feet. Winston Churchill

by r------ on Wed Apr 16th, 2008 at 06:56:12 PM EST
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Sounds like you're much more serious a rider than me. I never race, and typically peak at anywhere from 60-100 miles of a lazy casual ride in a given season. So the softness is a plus, while the other stuff mostly not that important or even negative e.g. twitchiness (skis on the other hand I want as responsive as possible - the reason why better skis are much worse for beginners - always fun to see the ones with too much money and too little sense) Plus I've never broken a bike - been riding the same one since before college and it still serves me well, though maintenance and upgrades have cost quite a bit more over the years than a new bike.

by MarekNYC on Wed Apr 16th, 2008 at 07:19:54 PM EST
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I like my Surly steel frame bike - rides true and like a tank in San Francisco traffic.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Thu Apr 17th, 2008 at 12:02:00 AM EST
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LQD: Monbiot: Meat a worse crime than biofuels. | 102 comments (102 topical, 0 editorial, 0 hidden)

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