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by Fran on Thu Apr 17th, 2008 at 12:38:27 AM EST
EU to sign energy security pact with Iraq - EUobserver.com
EUOBSERVER / BRUSSELS - European Commission president Jose Manuel Barroso and Iraqi prime minister Nouri al-Maliki announced on Wednesday (16 April) their intention to develop an energy security partnership between Iraq and the European Union.

"We want to establish an energy security partnership, which will benefit both European consumers and Iraq's economy," president Barroso told reporters in Brussels after a meeting with Mr al-Maliki

Mr Barroso said that negotiations on a trade and cooperation agreement were also "progressing very well". The EU and Iraq would sign a memorandum of understanding on energy security in the coming weeks, he added.

In return, the Iraqi prime minister had his own requests of Europe: "We need more effort to reconstruct our country and for this reconstruction. We need the aid of our European friends."

"We want to promote these relations based on mutual interest - be they in energy or other areas," he said.
by Fran on Thu Apr 17th, 2008 at 12:43:09 AM EST
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Iraq Pushes for Closer Energy Ties With EU | Europe | Deutsche Welle | 16.04.2008
On his first visit to Brussels as Iraqi prime minister, Nuri al-Maliki said his country could help the EU break its reliance on Russian gas. But what are the real prospects?

Maliki spent the morning of Wednesday, April 16, conferring with various EU officials.

 

"We do hope this meeting will result in new steps of cooperation between Iraq and EU countries, especially regarding contributing to our oil and gas sectors," al-Maliki said.

 

The EU is, after the US, the second-largest importer of Iraqi oil and natural gas. But despite the country's immense natural resources, Iraq's energy sector is still struggling to recover from years of sanctions and damage wrought by war -- including, of course, the US-led invasion of 2003.

 

EU officials welcomed al-Maliki's remarks.

by Fran on Thu Apr 17th, 2008 at 12:51:05 AM EST
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I wonder how useful this will be. The reason being that any agreements have no utility until there is peace and there will be no peace while the Americans are there. When the Americans leave I doubt that the evolution of the political landscape of Iraq will bear any resemblance to its current form and agreements will probably become null and void.

I think there is also a significant possibility that any agreement entered into with the current puppet regime will be treated as a sign of bad faith by a new government, which means the agreement may be precipitate and counter-productive.

I wonder what made Barrosso feel compelled to expend effort on this, at this time. Who was he pleasing ?

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by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Apr 17th, 2008 at 06:42:09 AM EST
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EU needs to 'mature', Russia says - EUobserver.com
EUOBSERVER / BRUSSELS - As the European Union fine-tunes a negotiating mandate for its long-delayed partnership talks with Russia, Moscow has urged the 27-nation bloc to grow up and avoid sacrificing mutually-beneficial ties in favour of individual states' interests.

"We are not pushing, we are not pressing, we are not in a hurry. If the EU needs to mature, as it obviously does, then so be it. We want the treaty as much, or as little, as the EU does," Russian ambassador to the EU Vladimir Chizhov said on Tuesday (15 April).

Speaking to Brussels-based journalists, Mr Chizhov warned against the negotiation process becoming "hostage to certain interests of individual member states of the EU, pursuing their own agenda that have little or nothing to do with the EU-Russia relations".

The 27-nation bloc is in the final phase of drafting the negotiating mandate - something that outlines precisely what the European Commission's manoeuvring space will be during the EU-Russia talks.
by Fran on Thu Apr 17th, 2008 at 12:43:35 AM EST
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In a meantime, Russia should stop EU and Eastern European energy subsidies at a tune of 180 bcm of gas per year and 5 mln bbl/day of oil, as benefits of this excess extraction to Russian people are not clear.
by blackhawk on Thu Apr 17th, 2008 at 02:37:26 AM EST
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French report calls for revision of EU's reform plan - EUobserver.com
An internal French report on how Paris is performing in implementing economic reforms, included the EU's Lisbon agenda, shows France is lagging behind but also claims that the whole policy package should be radically revised, French media reported on Wednesday (16 April).

The author of the report, economist and lawyer Laurent Cohen-Tanugi was appointed in October 2007 by the country's economy minister Christine Lagarde to look into the issue of Europe and its economic development in the context of globalisation.

The Lisbon agenda dates back to 2000 when it was adopted by EU leaders, also partially as a response to globalisation. It aims to make the European economy the most competitive in the world. The ambitious goal was originally set for 2010 but at the half-way stage, the deadline was dropped.

Aimed at boosting Europe's economic performance, the Lisbon agenda includes a list of concrete policy objectives, mainly focusing on more jobs as well as higher investment in education and research.
by Fran on Thu Apr 17th, 2008 at 12:43:58 AM EST
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EU, NATO Concerned as Russia Boosts Ties to Separatists | Europe | Deutsche Welle | 16.04.2008
The EU's foreign policy chief expressed concern after Russia decided to intensify its links to two separatist regions in Georgia. NATO's secretary general called on Moscow to reverse the measures.

"We are concerned about these unilateral decisions, we have always supported Georgia's territorial integrity," said Christina Gallach, European Union foreign policy chief Javier Solana's spokeswoman, on Wednesday, April 16.

 

NATO Secretary General Jaap de Hoop Scheffer went further, calling on Russia to roll back its plans.

 

"I am deeply concerned by the actions Russia has taken to establish legal links with the Georgian regions of Abkhazia and South Ossetia," de Hoop Scheffer said in a statement. "I urge the Russian Federation to reverse these measures, and call on the Georgian authorities to continue to show restraint," he added.

by Fran on Thu Apr 17th, 2008 at 12:44:28 AM EST
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BBC NEWS | Europe | Georgia angered by Russian move

Georgia has accused Russia of trying to annex the breakaway republics of Abkhazia and South Ossetia with its decision to seek closer ties with them.

Moscow said it would intensify social and economic co-operation in the regions and recognise businesses and organisations registered there.

But Georgian Foreign Minister David Bakradze said this amounted to "de facto annexation" of its provinces.

Last month, both regions called on the UN to recognise their independence.

Tbilisi responded by warning Moscow not to take any step towards recognition.

A senior MP in the Georgian parliament, Shota Malashkhia, said it would lead Russian peacekeepers to be "outlawed" in Abkhazia and South Ossetia.

by Fran on Thu Apr 17th, 2008 at 12:44:48 AM EST
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Neither Abkhazia nor South Ossetia were ever parts of post Soviet Georgia to be called "separatists", they were de facto independent from Georgia from the time of USSR breakup.
by blackhawk on Thu Apr 17th, 2008 at 02:30:45 AM EST
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De facto is not de jure. And if I recall correctly, Abkhazia's separation involved the chasing-away of the majority of the population.

At any rate, the EU member states supporting the US-pushed Kosovo independence should have thinked twice, and their hypocrisy when commenting this situation is staggering.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Thu Apr 17th, 2008 at 03:58:33 AM EST
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De jure Kosovo is not an independent state either.

It was not after the separation, but after Georgia tried to recapture Abkhazia using state sponsored militia and allowed this militia the days of rape and pillage the cities they captured. After this even non-Abkhaz minorities which were on a fence regarding the conflict did not want to have anything to do with Georgians and indeed Georgians who collaborated the militias and Georgian forces either ran or were chased away.

by blackhawk on Thu Apr 17th, 2008 at 04:13:34 AM EST
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There were militias and bloodshed on both sides, but your spin of the big ethnic cleansing sounds like that of Croatia after ethnic cleansing Serbians during the taking of the Krajinas. The majority of Abkhazia's population was ethnic cleansed (I looked up figures, it seems some 170,000 remained and at least 250,000 were chased away, with at most 60,000 returning later), which included all Georgians (who were the majority: 46% in the 1989 census), but also minorities. To call all of these collaborators of the ethnic Georgian militias and Georgian government forces is rich.

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One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Thu Apr 17th, 2008 at 04:19:31 AM EST
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Not sure what your source is and what is the year for 170 thousand population, but looks like you are confusing population temporary leaving the republic due to the war and ethnic cleansing. From the stories I heard from Russian and Armenian minorities in Abkhazia they were welcome back once Georgian militias were gone.

Also note that this news item is actually about Russia lifting economic blockade that actually contributed to the population leaving the republic. Can your 170 thousand figure be for the population several years into economic blockade?

by blackhawk on Thu Apr 17th, 2008 at 04:34:52 AM EST
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looks like you are confusing population temporary leaving the republic due to the war and ethnic cleansing

I wrote at least 250,000 were chased away, with at most 60,000 returning later. (Where 40,000 is the most often quoted number.)

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Thu Apr 17th, 2008 at 04:37:06 AM EST
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My point being that naming all 250,000 as victims of ethnic cleansing is a stretch is this case. By this definition of ethnic cleansing about 300,000 Russians and other minorities were ethnically cleansed from the Baltics republics alone.
by blackhawk on Thu Apr 17th, 2008 at 04:45:26 AM EST
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My point being that naming all 250,000 as victims of ethnic cleansing is a stretch is this case.

Croatia also claimed that the 100% Serbians leaving the Krajinas were just refugees from the war. And then proceeded to blow up their homes so that there is nothing they can return to, just like the Abkhaz militias.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Thu Apr 17th, 2008 at 04:54:42 AM EST
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I don't think anyone in Abkhazia claims Georgians are welcome there, there are not, exactly because of collaborating with invaders. Note that this is not Abkhaz nationalist view - this opinion is shared among other minorities.

Also they will not be allowed to have the majority they gained in Soviet times due to Soviet Georgia policies of "colonizing" Abkhazia with Georgians.

by blackhawk on Thu Apr 17th, 2008 at 05:06:51 AM EST
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Georgians are welcome there, there are not, exactly because of collaborating with invaders

You now made the accusation of collective guilt explicit, congrats.

this opinion is shared among other minorities.

At least 50,000 of the chased-away were from the minorities, and the remaining minorities can't tech in their mother tongue by law since 2004.

Soviet Georgia policies of "colonizing" Abkhazia with Georgians.

And Russians. Paralleling Soviet Russia and Tsarist Russia policies of "colonizing" the Caucasus and Baltic countries. Aren't you arguing the Baltic ethno-nationalist line?

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Thu Apr 17th, 2008 at 05:16:44 AM EST
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You now made the accusation of collective guilt explicit, congrats.

Only it's not me defining policy or accusing anyone, I'm just voicing the sentiment.

At least 50,000 of the chased-away were from the minorities, and the remaining minorities can't tech in their mother tongue by law since 2004.

You mean, like Russians in EU?

Aren't you arguing the Baltic ethno-nationalist line?

Which not only seems to be popular here, but is supported by the leadership of the big EU countries. Only yesterday Merkel remarked that she does not see problems with the rights of Russians in Baltic republics.

by blackhawk on Thu Apr 17th, 2008 at 05:29:32 AM EST
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Which not only seems to be popular here

Link, quote.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Thu Apr 17th, 2008 at 05:31:13 AM EST
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BTW, according to Soviet-time and earlier censuses quoted on Wikipedia, ethnic Georgians outnumbered ethnic Georgians in Abkhazia at least since 1917, pre-October-Revolution. Ethnic Russians also outnumbered them by 1939, and ethnic Armenians by 1959, with a turnaround of trends thereafter (post-Beria policies claimed by the article further up would explain that).

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Thu Apr 17th, 2008 at 05:36:43 AM EST
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Further study finds that there is a lot of toying with the early numbers. There are Georgian sub-ethnics, primarily Mingrelians, some censuses treated separately. Sometimes these and the Abkhazians were merged, funny situation for ethnic historical contests. But for censuses from 1897 to 1989, this graph is a reasonable summary:

The Abkhazi suffered the first great dislocations and immigration prior to this period, after Tsarist Russia crushed rebellions. (Parallels to Chechnya here.)

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Thu Apr 17th, 2008 at 05:59:26 AM EST
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Most likely beginning of century Mingrelians did not identify themselves as Georgians, so it is not correct to lump them together with Georgian.

The group combined with Abkhazs is likely Mingrelian Muslims, and Tsarist Russia did have a problem with a number of Muslim ethnicities at Caucasus that were causing trouble along supply lines necessary to support Christian Georgia against Ottoman Empire. Ironic how today Russia is protecting Muslim Abkhazs from Georgian and EU ethnic cleansing.

by blackhawk on Thu Apr 17th, 2008 at 06:53:07 AM EST
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EU ethnic cleansing

Interested in discussion, blackhawk, or just trolling?

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Apr 17th, 2008 at 07:21:30 AM EST
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Every discussion on the topic needs to recognize abysmal EU record in Baltics, ex-Yugoslavia, Kosovo and that EU-backed regime in Georgia is a state sponsor of terrorism.
by blackhawk on Thu Apr 17th, 2008 at 12:44:20 PM EST
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"EU ethnic cleansing" doesn't say that. It says a lot more and looks like provocation.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Apr 17th, 2008 at 12:58:26 PM EST
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His comments might be controversial, unpopular or even just wrong (I don't know enough to say) but they certainly do not strike me as "trollish."  

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.
by poemless on Thu Apr 17th, 2008 at 12:48:11 PM EST
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I wasn't asking blackhawk about "his comments", but about a specific three-word quote.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Apr 17th, 2008 at 01:01:51 PM EST
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There are most likely two problems with 1989 census.

First, Georgian authorities run it, and the results were counted in Tbilisi. There is a good reason for Georgia being called "a little empire" by no one else but an icon of Soviet perestroika academician Sakharov. Stalin remains very popular in Georgia. Empire-Lite has had every incentive to increase number of Georgians at the expense of national minorities (many of them were pushed out in 91-92 under Gamsakhurdia, BTW, but that's another story). Careers were easier for Georgians than Abkhazs, and there could be some who decided to put themselves as Georgians in 1989.

Second, Mengrelis and Svans were lumped together with Georgians. Mengrelis live mostly in Gali region, and it's them who are included into 60000 returnees. Svans live in Kodori gorge that was partially outside of anyone's control, but in 2006 Saakashvili conducted an operation against Svan paramilitaries and established an "Abkhaz government in exile" in there.

Finally, when thinking about the scale of population movements after 1992-93 war and appointing the blame, one tends to forget that many Georgians from Abkhasia moved elsewhere - estimates give 50000 going to Russia alone. This could have been a mixture of ethnic push and economic migration (many Georgians from Georgia proper are also in Russia these days).

by Sargon on Thu Apr 17th, 2008 at 07:51:07 AM EST
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Can your 170 thousand figure be for the population several years into economic blockade?

1989 census: 525,061
1995 Red Cross estimate: 80,000 Abkhazis [1989 census saw about 90,000], 60,000 Armenians, 40,000 Russians, 12,000 Georgians remain (sum: 192,000)
2003 census: 215,971 (even that is disputed)
2005 census: 320,000 (disputed, say Abkhazis suddenly jumped to 125,000)

I found since that there has been a re-expulsion of 40,000 returning ethnic Georgians in 1998, and then a re-return by a similar amount.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Thu Apr 17th, 2008 at 04:48:16 AM EST
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Blockade should be putting a downward pressure on population, so its actually good news that Russia stopped participating in this Georgian/EU charade of stifling the region.
 
by blackhawk on Thu Apr 17th, 2008 at 04:59:16 AM EST
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2005 census: 320,000

Sorry no, that's the even less accepted government estimate of the year 2000. The 2005 census numbers add up to around 255,000.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Thu Apr 17th, 2008 at 05:03:13 AM EST
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According to some estimates, up to 80% of Georgian adult males were involved with those militias. Significant part of minorities (Armenians, Russians, etc.) have supported Abkhaz side and consequently stayed on. Numbers of the people who had to leave is artificially reported up by Georgia for (obvious) reasons.
by Sargon on Thu Apr 17th, 2008 at 07:03:47 AM EST
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Yes, the hypocrisy of that statement is quite breathtaking isn't it. I wouldn't have believed it was possible until it happened, what are they thinking ???

Can we have some joined-up thinking here please ? This is embarrassing

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Apr 17th, 2008 at 06:47:00 AM EST
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EU urged to press Croatia on war crimes prosecution - EUobserver.com
EUOBSERVER / BRUSSELS - EU candidate country Croatia has not been doing enough to bring to justice all those who committed war crimes and crimes against humanity during the 1991 - 1995 war that pitted the newly independent country against the Yugoslav People's Army, leading human rights NGO Amnesty International has said.

On Tuesday (15 April) the organisation called on the EU to play a more active role to ensure that this issue is tackled and that all war criminals are brought to justice, regardless of their ethnicity.

Among other things, Amnesty is calling on the EU to press Croatia's government "to actively pursue the investigation and prosecution of war crimes, provide assistance for the necessary judicial reforms and continue to monitor the situation beyond the conclusion of accession talks."

During the four-year long war - known as the Croatian war of independence - ethnic-based war crimes were committed by both Serbs and Croats in the country.
by Fran on Thu Apr 17th, 2008 at 12:45:27 AM EST
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Muslims in Germany: Life in a Parallel Society - International - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News

In Germany, Islam is often equated with fundamentalism and fanaticism, a perception that imposes a heavy burden on the country's 3 million Muslims. Their relationship to Western society is divided between integration and sometimes self-imposed exclusion.

 Friday prayers: Hamburg's central mosque in the St. Georg neighborhood is the most important gathering place for the city's estimated 130,000 Muslims.

The name of the salon is German -- Goldene Finger (Golden Fingers) -- but the services it offers are listed in the window in Arabic and Turkish. In the front of the shop, 40-year-old Palestinian Toufic al-Rifae gives men haircuts and trims their beards. Veiled women disappear into a back section behind a curtain, where female hairdressers do their hair and, using thick lines of the traditional Middle Eastern cosmetic preparation known as kohl, apply their makeup in the Arab style.

by Fran on Thu Apr 17th, 2008 at 12:47:20 AM EST
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The intro makes it appear that the described Muslims represent all Muslims in Germany. Some change from the SPIEGEL six years ago... But the article then includes some interesting data --



When dividing with the total numbers given below, it seems "Muslims" (nominal and real, a distinction not made by these diagrams) are as secular as the general population, it seems. More interesting numbers:


These however can be spun both ways:




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by DoDo on Thu Apr 17th, 2008 at 04:14:19 AM EST
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My main objection to the last two graphs, especially the "distance to democracy" question, is that we don't have a comparison to the rest of the population.

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One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Thu Apr 17th, 2008 at 06:06:38 AM EST
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Also, the idea of sexual morality being "totally degenerate" seems quite an extreme stance. I wonder what the alternatives were as that result seems out of alignment with the general sentiments expressed. So it may have been in  response to a question that was badly phrased.

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by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Apr 17th, 2008 at 06:55:42 AM EST
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And, well, 67 % of muslim considering Islam to be the only true religion seems really low to me...

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by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Thu Apr 17th, 2008 at 06:58:32 AM EST
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Germany to press EU over Iraqi Christian refugees - International Herald Tribune

BERLIN: Germany will appeal to other European Union countries this week to take in more Christians from Iraq and attempt to reach a common policy toward Iraqi refugees, officials said Wednesday.

The government here is already considering granting Christians preferential treatment over other religions and groups. Interior Minister Wolfgang Schäuble stated his intention to open Germany's doors to Iraqi Christians during interviews last weekend and expects full agreement Thursday when interior ministers from the 16 states meet near Berlin.

The issue will also be discussed Friday by EU interior ministers at a meeting in Luxembourg.

Schäuble's position has been welcomed by Christian churches, which have expressed alarm at sectarian violence, the bombing of churches and execution of clergymen.

But the opposition Green Party has criticized Schäuble's plan. Though it partly endorsed it, the Greens said it would be hypocritical to open the doors to one group at the expense of another because so many civilians are suffering.

by Fran on Thu Apr 17th, 2008 at 12:52:17 AM EST
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Fields of gold: Investors discover lucrative haven in Britain's farmland - This Britain, UK - The Independent

The price of farmland is rising at its fastest rate for more than 30 years as wealthy city dwellers and overseas buyers seek a slice of idyllic rural England and jittery investors rush to move their money out of stocks and shares because of the global credit crunch.

In contrast to falling residential and commercial property values, the average price of farmland rose by more than 10 per cent in the first quarter of 2008, according to a study of agricultural property sales which will be published this month. Arable land, in particular, has become so profitable that its average price has soared from £4,000 an acre in January last year to £5,500 an acre today.

"So far this year, we have seen some of the same trends we saw last year but at an even more accelerated pace," said Andrew Shirley, head of rural land research at the Knight Frank estate agency, which conducted the study. "We have seen farms in Kent and Dorset sell for more than £6,000 an acre and another batch in the North-west go for £5,000. This time last year, the same farms might have fetched £3,500 per acre - that is nearly a 75 per cent increase in some areas."

According to the Royal Institution of Chartered Surveyors, the value of farmland rose by 28 per cent during the second half of 2007. The last time agricultural property prices increased at such a rate was during the late 1970s, when annual increases of 40 per cent were common. Knight Frank believes prices will continue to rise by between 10 and 20 per cent this year.

by Fran on Thu Apr 17th, 2008 at 12:57:55 AM EST
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This isn't a British phenomenon. Agricultural land prices are rising everywhere.

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by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Apr 17th, 2008 at 06:56:40 AM EST
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There's still some pretty cheap land in the U.S. of A. Here's a guy who bought a 93 acre farm in West Virginia for $2700. And you can get land in Kansas for free. You get what you pay for, though...  :-)

http://www.motherearthnews.com/Modern-Homesteading/1970-05-01/Locating-and-Buying-Low-Cost-Land.aspx

by asdf on Thu Apr 17th, 2008 at 11:06:52 AM EST
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No point owning land I'm not legally entitled to visit. Until the DHS is disbanded and human beings replace immigration agents entry to the USA is fraught with difficulty.

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by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Apr 18th, 2008 at 07:44:19 AM EST
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Amnesty International Criticizes EU's Immigration Policy | Europe | Deutsche Welle | 16.04.2008
The human rights organization Amnesty International denounced the European Union's policies on asylum-seekers, calling them a lottery for the right to stay in what it has described as Fortress Europe.

"Fortress Europe ... is a reality," Irene Khan, Amnesty's secretary general, said during a press conference in Brussels after talks with EU officials on Tuesday, April 15.

 

"Access to Europe is very difficult and the initial border of the European Union is being pushed further and further away," she said, pointing to the rescue operations of migrants in the Mediterranean Sea, patrols in Senegal and increasing EU cooperation with transit countries.

by Fran on Thu Apr 17th, 2008 at 12:59:14 AM EST
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