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I've been suggesting that there will be appreciable starvation/die off events across the globe for a little while.

I genuinely fear that the first will be the scariest when China starves within the next decade. Equally I fear that the UK is vulnerable because the economic structure has become entirely divorced from agricultural production. Too many people who will be economically unproductive without oil in places where food isn't and no good way to re-adjust that fact.

There are possible solutions, but I doubt they will allow more than a general deflation, we cannot go on growing population which is gonna piss off a lot of religious groups.

We could lose a couple of billion over a timescale of 10 - 50 years which is going to make political stability a commodity hard to find.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Apr 9th, 2008 at 11:32:43 AM EST
"...when China starves within the next decade."?

China is facing an obesity problem, and meat consumption there is climbing rapidly.

Calories per capita (admittedly a global average which can hide a lot) have been climbing for decades and would have to fall substantially to return us to the 1980s level. I don't recall any mass starvation at the time that wasn't the result of a war or of thugs in government.

From a post at The Oil Drum, data courtesy of the FAO:

Note that cereal consumption is down, which tends to be a sign of wealth -- for example, only nearly starving peasants eat almost all-rice diets.

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by technopolitical on Fri Apr 11th, 2008 at 03:44:05 AM EST
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Good points techno.
A large portion of the world now is overeating and Obesity could end up killing more people that starvation in this century.

My post below and yours seems to be pointing out that famines are caused not by scarcity of resources but lack of democracy and of course good governance.

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by Ronald Rutherford (rdrradio1 -at- msn -dot- com) on Fri Apr 11th, 2008 at 02:02:50 PM EST
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