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I was a little surprised to see a hammer and sickle in the background of the first picture. I had been under the impression that the symbols of the former Soviet state have been removed.
by Magnifico on Fri May 16th, 2008 at 02:29:53 PM EST
You were?  It's been quite a while since I've been there, but I was always surprised to see the presence of hammer and sickle emblems people had never bothered to remove.  

Well, firstly, Victory Day (the occasion on which these tanks were paraded about) celebrates the Soviet defeat of the Nazis.  

Secondly, there have been some official attempts to integrate Russia's history, the Tsarist, Soviet and current regimes, to arrive at a collective Russian identity.  As with the national anthem.  Which is one of the reasons Putin was chided - promoting the idea that the USSR might be a valid chapter in their history.  

Overall, I think the West is more prone to compartmentalizing Russian history than Russians are.  

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.

by poemless on Fri May 16th, 2008 at 02:39:46 PM EST
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If you have a chance to see pictures of war veterans at the parade in Moscow, take a close look at the medals they're wearing. All of them are medals awarded when the veterans were in the Red Army, which was renamed "Soviet Army" after the Second World War. The Soviet Union with hammer and sickle cannot be divorced from the history of the war. Here are some Soviet medals and what's on them.
by Anthony Williamson on Sat May 17th, 2008 at 11:38:05 AM EST
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Thanks so much poemless, that's such an enjoyable read!

I was a little surprised to see a hammer and sickle in the background of the first picture.

The soviet emblems are to be seen everywhere in today's Russia, train stations, public buildings, squares - hammer and sickles, statues of Lenine showing the way, statues of the deserving miner, etc.

I suppose people are actually attached to them, and are proud of their history. They remind them of the good old times, when everyone had a job, first-rate education, free medical care, when society actually took care of its people.

Why those emblems should be taken down, I have no idea. Would a properly Western-formatted mind explain that to me ?

by balbuz on Sat May 17th, 2008 at 02:28:08 PM EST
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Why those emblems should be taken down, I have no idea. Would a properly Western-formatted mind explain that to me ?

Symbol of a totalitarian state and ideology.  Then again, given the fact of how attached a part of this country is to the Confederate flag, we shouldn't complain too much.

by MarekNYC on Sat May 17th, 2008 at 02:51:51 PM EST
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Symbol of a totalitarian state and ideology.

That's only a part of what they represent. You may choose to discard the rest, but that's awfully hard to do in a room full of middle-aged russians...

by balbuz on Sat May 17th, 2008 at 03:21:45 PM EST
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Well, you asked, I answered. And given that the hammer and sickle is also a symbol of the struggle against Nazi Germany for Russians, and post Stalinist communism was nowhere near as bad a system as the antebellum South, I do give them somewhat more of a pass than I do the TiDoS folks.
by MarekNYC on Sat May 17th, 2008 at 03:46:31 PM EST
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