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What makes this a special case is that on the one hand these weren't really immigrants, but rather folks who moved to a different part of their own country and suddenly found themselves screwed over when the borders changed. On the other hand they are also the settlers from the former imperial power, a category which does not tend to fare all that well following decolonization.  So this isn't really like the Kosovo situation where you had a region with a longstanding bi-national population where the local majority sought to gain independence from the ethno-state of the local minority and initially the minority imposed a highly repressive and discriminatory rule, and then when the majority won a bloody civil war, it proceeded to ethnically cleanse a large chunk of the minority population.

However, I don't see how the EU can fairly act unless it imposes a uniform obligation of citizenship by birth and a ban on using any language or cultural criteria in the naturalization process.

NB Anybody know how the proporations of citizens/stateless/Russian citizens have changed, if it all over the past fifteen years?

by MarekNYC on Sat May 10th, 2008 at 03:06:31 PM EST
NB how many non citizens with permanent resident status does Finland have and do they automatically give citizenship to those born there or who have lived there for a certain number of years?
by MarekNYC on Sat May 10th, 2008 at 03:08:32 PM EST
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I don't know. My personal experience was of being first an alien with residence that kept getting extended, and then finally learning Finnish, passing an obligatory language test, and finally acquiring citizenship signed by the then President himself - Mauno Koivisto.

Some investigation is needed to find out what has happened between 1982 and today.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Sat May 10th, 2008 at 03:16:28 PM EST
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Don't know about permanent residents, but all told approximately 130,000 non-Finnish citizens live in Finland. You're only a Finnish citizen at birth if at least one of your parents is a Finnish citizen. To become a Finnish citizen, you have to have been a resident for at least six years and be able to communicate in either Finnish or Swedish.

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by NordicStorm (m<-at->sturmbaum.net) on Sat May 10th, 2008 at 03:39:23 PM EST
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