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I either don't understand what you are saying, or if it is the plain meaning

The plain meaning of what I said was that people are wrongly tried and convicted in this country's criminal justice system, because they happened to fit a certain profile.  How many people have we had to take off death row after discovering through DNA research later that they didn't commit the murders they were tried for?

Others suffer harassment by the police because of their demographic profiles.  For example, you're familiar with the "crime" of DWB, I assume.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Sat Jun 14th, 2008 at 11:00:39 AM EST
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Sure I'm familiar with it, I had a case thrown out of court earlier this year because the judge felt the cop had stopped the guy for exactly that, suppressed the evidence and the guilty-but not of what he was allegedly stopped for-client went free.  My point was the expansive nature of your statement is absolutely incorrect, while there certainly are terrible breakdowns and injustices, you do not get tossed into prison for fitting a demographic, at least here in N. California.  You may very well get heightened scrutiny and we can't always defeat that, but you don't head off to Soledad cause you are a 19 yr. old Hispanic with baggy pants.

"I said, 'Wait a minute, Chester, You know I'm a peaceful man...'" Robbie Robertson
by NearlyNormal on Sat Jun 14th, 2008 at 11:05:08 AM EST
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Agreed.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Sat Jun 14th, 2008 at 11:06:45 AM EST
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And definitely not if you "display the psychological traits typical of embezzlers".

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jun 14th, 2008 at 11:08:00 AM EST
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If that was true Cheney would be in jail, n'est-ce pas?

"I said, 'Wait a minute, Chester, You know I'm a peaceful man...'" Robbie Robertson
by NearlyNormal on Sat Jun 14th, 2008 at 11:10:08 AM EST
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Perhaps you get sucked up by a military contracting firm, or a hedge fund, --or by the CEO of some oil company, or a K street lobbyist.
That trait package might just be pretty profitable these days.

Capitalism searches out the darkest corners of human potential, and mainlines them.
by geezer in Paris (risico at wanadoo(flypoop)fr) on Sat Jun 14th, 2008 at 02:53:50 PM EST
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Most of the DAN evidence has exonerated people convicted on the basis of eyewitness testimony, often under circumstances where one would think it would be most reliable.  Eyewitness ty is the biggest convictor of innocent people of all forms of evidence-juries seem to place great faith in it, and cops know how to rig the system to give subtle hints leading towards those whom they believe to be guilty.

"I said, 'Wait a minute, Chester, You know I'm a peaceful man...'" Robbie Robertson
by NearlyNormal on Sat Jun 14th, 2008 at 11:08:10 AM EST
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DNA not DAN, its early here.

"I said, 'Wait a minute, Chester, You know I'm a peaceful man...'" Robbie Robertson
by NearlyNormal on Sat Jun 14th, 2008 at 11:09:10 AM EST
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