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Do you have any idea what genuinely independent media would look like?

None of us does, which was sort of my point above.  Such a thing has never existed.  Hearkening back to some golden era when "the media were independent" is a bit myopic.

by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Tue Jul 1st, 2008 at 07:33:04 PM EST
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Can we at least agree on 'more independent' then?

Possibly a 'Tentatively willing to ask harder questions slightly more aggressively as long as no one gets annoyed' perhaps?

I'll stop short of an 'Imbued with a tradition of journalistic integrity' because obviously that's not going to be a popular choice here. And it's not as if such a thing has ever existed, even in theory.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Tue Jul 1st, 2008 at 07:46:01 PM EST
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You really aren't going to get much joy out of me, sorry. :-\

I usually stay out of these "the media are X" discussions because I don't think it's possible to generalize about what "the media" are or were.  These things are cyclical, and at any given time it depends on which media, and independent of what or asking hard questions of whom.  Fox News and the New York Post may be the media, but so is McClatchy.  Seymour Hersh is the media.  So is Keith Olbermann.

by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Tue Jul 1st, 2008 at 08:33:40 PM EST
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