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It's always about the restrooms | 21 comments (21 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)
Re: It's always about the restrooms (none / 1)
Here's a couple of articles about this situation in Colorado Springs that seems to support your diary. As usual, the local "Christian" organization is on the wrong side of the argument... http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4191/is_20070623/ai_n19321402
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4191/is_20080522/ai_n27513451

But I've noticed that there is a trend towards gender neutral bathrooms in a lot of places. My doctor's office, for example, has "restrooms" without gender markings. And many outdoor events in Colorado are supported by port-a-potties that are not differentiated by gender.

Also I suppose it matters whether people know that someone is transgendered. If you present as a woman, only those who know your history would have the idea of complaining...

by asdf on Wed Jul 23rd, 2008 at 08:35:01 PM EST
Re: It's always about the restrooms (none / 1)
I was aware of the colorado situation but just thought it was typical.

A wonderful example of the warm embrace of Second wave feminists can be found here at Radical Feminist Carnival. It's really quite nasty, but is actually only a slightly more extreme version of what I've heard from feminists about the transgendered since forever.

I must admit that 3rd wave feminists (under 30) are much more accomodating, Feministing.copm are very much on our side, but feel that most UK feminists are still resolutely second wave. A UK lesbian online forum called Gingerbeer discussed transmen (ftm) last year and there was such an obvious hatred of all trans people from a significant and vocal minority that most trans people left the board as they were made to feel unwelcome.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Jul 24th, 2008 at 04:57:12 AM EST
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Wow. That's a lot of work to justify a lot of biases. Gender isn't real? Right.

Anyway, it's the high-heels and falling into sexual stereotypes that you do that really disqualifies you as a proper woman. Or something.

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Thu Jul 24th, 2008 at 05:05:19 AM EST
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Re: It's always about the restrooms (none / 1)
That article is truly amazing. seeing the writer convinced that they have a logical argument, when in fact they just have a pile of hatreds, neuroses and assumptions is stunning. That argument is a desperate houss of cards on the point of collapse, held up by some really distasteful views in the comments.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Thu Jul 24th, 2008 at 05:19:31 AM EST
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Re: It's always about the restrooms (4.00 / 2)
You're just a patriarchal misogynist.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Thu Jul 24th, 2008 at 05:20:46 AM EST
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Re: It's always about the restrooms (none / 1)
don't be ridiculous, some of my best friends are women ;-)

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Thu Jul 24th, 2008 at 06:12:01 AM EST
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Well, I can't be that thing you said. (none / 0)
I can't pronounce it, let alone spell it ... I can't be nothing that I got to copy and paste.


I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.
by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Mon Jul 28th, 2008 at 12:42:52 AM EST
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