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Those are good questions, but at the risk of invoking the [Helen's Crystal Ball of Doom Technology] logo, I think we can paraphrase Rummy by saying that you run the country with the government you have, not the government you wish you had.

The Democrats are shot through with a wide vein of Repugnican-lite spineless Bush enablers. Even those who claim to be putting up a fight are eager to blink if the going gets tough. I honestly feel they have a view that the american people are either too ignorant to care about the constitution or, if not ignorant, don't care anyway. If it don't fill their wallet, then it ain't something that moves people in downtown Peoria.

I sometimes read the drippy wet weak excuses of Democrat leaders in DC as to why they caved on this, co-operated on that and you start to realise why Republicans, and indeed americans in general view Democrats as they do. We know that the republicans are unprincipled, but their refusal to compromise actually makes them look principled and strong. They look like they believe in something. By contrast, by giving up on everything be it War, Torture or even the constitution itself, the democrats are the ones who appear unprincipled, they look like they don't believe in anything, but are amoral schemers and chancers. And not very good ones either cos they keep losing every vote.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Jul 5th, 2008 at 11:38:21 AM EST
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Sat Jul 5th, 2008 at 12:29:29 PM EST
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I saw a discussion on the tele the other day that essentially aligned Obama with some of the anti-abortionist groups.  The title was something like "Will the Catholic Church save the Democratic Party?"

I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears
by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Sat Jul 5th, 2008 at 02:49:53 PM EST
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Helen, I agree with every one of your points.  What I'm getting that is: Congress is now not just rolling over on policy but allowing the executive to chip away at its prerogatives.  If it won't stand up to him on THAT then its very relevance is open to question.  I'd have thought members would fight for it tooth and nail, but maybe I'm wrong.  It's hard to believe though.
by danps (dan at pruningshears (dot) us) on Sat Jul 5th, 2008 at 02:50:15 PM EST
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I agree, but hasn't Congress'relevance been in question for some time.  Only the Congress has lower approval ratings than Bush.

I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears
by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Sat Jul 5th, 2008 at 02:55:40 PM EST
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Congress's relevance has been in question, but I wouldn't point to the fact that it has lower approvals than Bush.  In fact, I believe the approvals change a fair bit once you start asking about each party is Congress, but even that is silly.  (The Democrats aren't Republicans, at least in name, so they'll have higher approvals in Congress.)  I believe Congress typically has lower approvals than the president, just as the Supreme Court typically has higher approvals than the president.  It's more of a difference in how the public has historically perceived the three branches.

Also, the president can control his own message.  It's clean.  Thumbs up or thumbs down.  Congress, obviously by its nature, can't, so it's muddy, and "muddy" is usually "bad" for approvals.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Sat Jul 5th, 2008 at 03:07:41 PM EST
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An 18% approval level for an institution of elected officials is low by anyone's standards.  The congress we have today, regardless of party affiliations, is a useless hulk, period. If just plainly ineffective, and I certainly don't have a quick solution.

I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears
by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Sat Jul 5th, 2008 at 09:37:55 PM EST
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