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Despite all the links between McCain and Saakashvili, I don't think at all, that McCain has ordered the war. The question Cui bono is much overblown. Things just happen and some are lucky to take advantage others have bad luck.

  • When McCain said 'Now we are all Geogians', Saakashvili said, words are nice, but what he needs is action.
  • The US gov was completely surprised and much slower in its reaction than European govs. Wouldn't McCain have said a word to the US gov?
  • Obama is not quite against Georgia.
  • If McCain and Saakashvili would have worked together, Saakashvili would have known, that no major western response would be coming. Now he is complaining, and not only he, about the much too mild western response. I think this is the key issue. Saakashvili thought, he would get much more support and thought he can retake whole Geogia
  • Finally Saakashvili has paid a McCain aide, not vice versa. Why should Saakashvili sacrifice Georgia's people, Georgia's souvereignity, and Georgia's chances to become member of the EU, for helping McCain to become president?

The signs of support came before. Georgia was granted military cooperation as if it would be a NATO member by the US before. The NATO summit said, Georgia will be one day in the NATO. The general support for west orientation of former Soviet Republics....
I think Saakashvili acted on its own, and miscalculated, that a real war would bring the tipping point.


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by Martin (weiser.mensch(at)googlemail.com) on Tue Aug 19th, 2008 at 10:06:24 AM EST
I accept that it is most unlikely that McCain had, personally, anything to do with it.  The most that might be implied is that Randy Scheunemann - in trying to justify his $800,000 fee and talk up his own influence - might have given Saakashvili an over blown estimate of the likely US response should Russia re-act.

Saakashvili  might also have calculated that it was now or never - Bush is a lame duck, and McCain's campaign was going nowhere, so if he wanted US support he was more likely to get it during, and not after, the hyperventilated atmosphere of a Presidential Election campaign.

Even Obama -as you noted - has had to sharpen his anti-Russian rhetoric despite his willingness to talk to US enemies as in Iran.

But all of that is not my point.  Is it appropriate and proper for a Presidential Election candidate to employ as a close adviser someone with close links to a foreign power, and who is a player in the ongoing development of that relationship?  Obama was criticised for acting as if he were already President when he was in Berlin.  But here we have McCain aides actually becoming major players in a war situation.

You cannot have Presidential candidates benefiting from the exacerbation of conflicts by their own people.  The least McCain should do is sack Scheunemann  - for a possible conflict of interest.  (Scheunemann partner in a two man Lobbying consultancy is still drawing fees from the Georgian Government).

This has nothing to do with left, right, Democrat or Republican.  It is the basic ethical principle that should apply in a democracy.

It's time I got out of this game....

by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Tue Aug 19th, 2008 at 10:25:13 AM EST
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This has nothing to do with left, right, Democrat or Republican.  It is the basic ethical principle that should apply in a democracy.

It is abundantly clear that a significant fraction (at least in terms of influence, even if possibly not in terms of numbers) of the Right either doesn't give a damn about democracy and rule of law or are openly hostile to it. There are no such organised anti-democratic forces in the Left (such as it is and what there is left of it), hence the constant need for wingnut apparatchiks to slander the democratic left with the crimes of extinct Stalinists.

In my considered opinion, that makes it a left-right issue.

Now, it may not be productive to start that discussion in the current LTE exchange, but there is no reason to not acknowledge it in our own discourse.

- Jake

Friends come and go. Enemies accumulate.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Sun Aug 24th, 2008 at 05:22:25 AM EST
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