Anti-Americans should stop masquerading as anti-war [SECOND UPDATE] | 89 comments (89 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)

Re: Anti-Americans should stop masquerading as ant (4.00 / 3)

I question if there is any substance behind the "anti-Americanism" concept in this case; there IS a lot of "pro-McCain, don't you DARE blame him or link him to this situation" sentiment and these people will drag up ANY argument, good, bad, idiotic, to protect their person (McCain in this instance). I hear a lot of this kind of crap from the callers on Washington Journal (CSPAN) every morning. That's why they invented the MUTE button.

They tried to assimilate me. They failed.

by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Tue Aug 19th, 2008 at 08:58:31 AM EST

Re: Anti-Americans (4.00 / 2)

He was a POW. End of story.

Or something.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Tue Aug 19th, 2008 at 09:02:55 AM EST
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Re: Anti-Americans (4.00 / 4)

Yup, McCain is the latest Trojan horse on our road to an absolute police state.

Question: Do you think a series of diaries on "the embryonic police state" would be of interest here at ET? For the first time yesterday I heard Olbermann use that term and I thought, I can't stop it so why not document it in a series of diaries? What think you?

They tried to assimilate me. They failed.

by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Tue Aug 19th, 2008 at 09:08:50 AM EST
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Re: Anti-Americans (4.00 / 3)

I say go for it.

McCain is, more than anything, a statist. So the police state jibes with his philosophy. Not as bad as Rudy Mussolini, but being better than Rudy! on the police state is like beating a one-legged man in an ass-kicking contest.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Tue Aug 19th, 2008 at 09:15:59 AM EST
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Re: Anti-Americans (4.00 / 4)

Thank You. Let's see how other folks ring in.

They tried to assimilate me. They failed.

by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Tue Aug 19th, 2008 at 09:21:49 AM EST
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Re: Anti-Americans (none / 1)

go for it!

It's time I got out of this game....

by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Tue Aug 19th, 2008 at 09:35:25 AM EST
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Re: Anti-Americans (none / 1)

Absolutely. Go for it!

The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman

by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Tue Aug 19th, 2008 at 01:22:32 PM EST
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Re: Anti-Americans (4.00 / 3)

Start slow. Make the definition clear. Keep each essay short, and you will have something.

Never underestimate their intelligence, always underestimate their knowledge.

Frank Delaney ~ Ireland

by siegestate (siegestate or beyondwarispeace.com) on Wed Aug 20th, 2008 at 03:23:37 AM EST
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Re: Anti-Americans (4.00 / 3)

And don't forget ET rules: focus on facts and data, always mention (and link to) sources, etc...

"Dieu se rit des hommes qui se plaignent des conséquences alors qu'ils en chérissent les causes" Jacques-Bénigne Bossuet

by Melanchthon on Wed Aug 20th, 2008 at 04:42:57 AM EST
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Re: Anti-Americans (4.00 / 4)

Do you think a series of diaries on "the embryonic police state" would be of interest here at ET?

Definitely yes. It would be a good idea.

"Dieu se rit des hommes qui se plaignent des conséquences alors qu'ils en chérissent les causes" Jacques-Bénigne Bossuet

by Melanchthon on Tue Aug 19th, 2008 at 09:24:34 AM EST
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Re: Anti-Americans (4.00 / 3)

Absolutely. Among other things, the same tendencies can be seen in Canada as well. We aren't nearly as far down the road as the US is, but we are still on that road.

I have a hunch we aren't the only other country considering toying with the implementation of police state.

_{aspiring to genteel poverty}

by edwin (eeeeeeee222222rrrrreeeeeaaaaadddddd@@@@yyyyaaaaaaa) on Tue Aug 19th, 2008 at 09:53:40 AM EST
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Re: Anti-Americans (4.00 / 3)

The UK has more surveillance cameras than anyone else...

It's time I got out of this game....

by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Tue Aug 19th, 2008 at 09:55:58 AM EST
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Re: Anti-Americans (4.00 / 2)

Singing:

The British police are the best in the world,
I don't believe none of these stories I've heard...

by PIGL (stevec@boreal.gmail@com) on Tue Aug 19th, 2008 at 11:16:54 AM EST
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Re: Anti-Americans (4.00 / 4)

And our own government is definitely trying to put more police in the French state: surveillance cameras, speed cameras, military in the airports and train stations, ISPs enrolled as content cops, frequent ID checks on everyone black or brown, you name it...

Don't forget to bring "vos papiers" at next month's meet-up in Paris (and don't tell Mr Dunphy you're going to France...)

by Bernard (bernard) on Tue Aug 19th, 2008 at 04:29:14 PM EST
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Re: Anti-Americans (4.00 / 2)

Well! - We've got our very own no fly list!! And in a couple of days I'll get to find out if I am on it.

_{aspiring to genteel poverty}

by edwin (eeeeeeee222222rrrrreeeeeaaaaadddddd@@@@yyyyaaaaaaa) on Tue Aug 19th, 2008 at 08:38:50 PM EST
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Re: Anti-Americans should stop masquerading as ant (4.00 / 3)

Yea but this is Ireland and there is no evidence that this guy is a McCain supporter as such. Criticise any aspect of US policy and you will draw charges of anti-Americanism from some quarters here. I'm not quite sure what turns them on. Of course there are close links between Ireland and America and we have a lot in common. But any idiot can distinguish between a factual critique of the activities of one candidate and his key staffer and the US as a whole. So "anti-American" is just a rhetorical device to try and type cast me as yer typical anti-American, peacenik, lunatic fringe - in contrast to the sensible types who think the US is generally a good thing. I need to refute the stereotype because the evidence points to some serious concerns which should be alarming to all - regardless of their political views vis a vis the US.

It's time I got out of this game....

by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Tue Aug 19th, 2008 at 09:06:02 AM EST
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Re: Anti-Americans should stop masquerading as ant (4.00 / 2)

Nah, you're just getting warmed up, assuming you have the time to invest.

They tried to assimilate me. They failed.

by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Tue Aug 19th, 2008 at 09:11:27 AM EST
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