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If I may propose a somewhat heretical solution, why don't we just cut a deal with the Brits: They get in on the long-term stuff on the cheap without having to pay upfront for the services already rendered (although they of course will have to pay for the continued maintenance and expansion to cover their own needs). In exchange, they STFU about Russia and let the competent professionals deal with them, and generally start behaving like responsible adults.

I mean, if they keep this crap up they might end up doing irrepairable damage to European interests in Russia and the Caucasus. Surely even quite a steep price would be worth it to shut them up? The fact that London might freeze over would be small consolation if the stupid gits did manage to restart the Cold War...

- Jake

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by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Mon Sep 1st, 2008 at 03:37:14 PM EST
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The fact that London might freeze over would be small consolation if the stupid gits did manage to restart the Cold War...

puts a new twist on the phrase 'cold war', huh

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by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Mon Sep 1st, 2008 at 04:47:34 PM EST
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That seems a high price to pay for nothing much in return. If good behaviour is a currency, it's the kind that can be minted for free. Come the next big European issue, what's to stop the Brits from agitating once again to get their way?

There's no better teacher than reality. Wisdom comes from suffering the consequences of one's acts, if one is too stupid to learn from others first.

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by martingale on Mon Sep 1st, 2008 at 09:52:12 PM EST
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A clause in the agreement specifying that if the a party to the agreement "recklessly endangers" the energy security of its neighbours, it ceases to be a party to the agreement.

- Jake

Friends come and go. Enemies accumulate.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Tue Sep 2nd, 2008 at 05:21:13 AM EST
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How about something with teeth? Like, the British govt could perhaps auction off its remaining stakes in various British energy companies, as a gesture of goodwill to the very foreign energy firms who would be asked in return to supply the British market at a fair market price?



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by martingale on Tue Sep 2nd, 2008 at 05:53:23 AM EST
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I dislike the notion of "auctioning off" bits and pieces of the strategic infrastructure - to anyone. I'd prefer having a joint, multilateral operation - possibly at the EU level. There'll be a limit to how much the Brits could screw it up, because the countries that have so far behaved more or less responsibly would remain in the majority.

Of course, that would give them yet another forum to throw tantrums in...

- Jake

Friends come and go. Enemies accumulate.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 03:16:58 PM EST
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I dislike the notion of "auctioning off" bits and pieces of the strategic infrastructure - to anyone.
It's not a strategic loss if it's European partner companies that buy it up, though. The whole point of an EU level energy supply guarantee would be that the British government is incapable of planning ahead, and is dependent on the expertise of foreign companies and governments to sort out its own mess.

That can best be done by giving up the remaining unprivatised part of its assets to those foreign companies, since 1) it would lower the bariers to entry into the British market, 2) it would guarantee no misplaced political meddling into what must be done over many years to guarantee energy supply for the British public, and 3) it would actually offer a real incentive to those foreign firms to adapt their current energy distribution plans.

I'd prefer having a joint, multilateral operation - possibly at the EU level. There'll be a limit to how much the Brits could screw it up, because the countries that have so far behaved more or less responsibly would remain in the majority.
But where's the beef? Why should EU energy companies, often government owned, agree to such a thing? They have their own mandates, which require serving their own citizens first.

The ones in trouble are the Brits. It's up to them to offer something tangible in return for getting their balls out of the fire. What have the Brits done lately for the EU? What can they pay to solve their energy woes?

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by martingale on Thu Sep 4th, 2008 at 03:57:36 AM EST
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