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It is still without any question what so ever the most powerful armed forces the world has ever seen.

The equipment has been worn down some, but that just mean more money to the military industrial complex.

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.

by Starvid on Sat Sep 20th, 2008 at 08:25:25 AM EST
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It's a very useful tool when the US wants to take on the military might of Haiti and Honduras.

Against sturdier foes armed with the very latest weaponry and a limitless budget - like Iraq, Vietnam and Afghanistan - its record isn't quite as convincing.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Sat Sep 20th, 2008 at 09:19:54 AM EST
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Iraq had its ass kicked, so did the Taleban. The North Vietnamese had no chance against the Americans in a conventional war and only launched that when the Americans were leaving.

But no, I've never claimed the Americans were good at counter-insurgency.

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.

by Starvid on Sat Sep 20th, 2008 at 09:37:10 AM EST
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Kind of the point, isn't it?

One might say there is an established doctrine of how to beat the US military: Allow them into the country and then conduct guerrilla/insurgency warfare until they leave.

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Sat Sep 20th, 2008 at 10:26:46 AM EST
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Counterinsurgency is an awful horrible thing to live through and the only people who do it are insane warlike dirt poor countries with huge birth rates and nothing to lose, except blood.

(And with the high birthrate that doesn't really matter).

In more developed nations where people actually want to live reasonable lives, like in Georgia, an insurgency is hard to imagine no matter how much the neocon press has been writing about it.

And when push comes to shove, if someone starts an insurgency against you, you very likely have done something very wrong.

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.

by Starvid on Sat Sep 20th, 2008 at 10:51:03 AM EST
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Civilian deaths and destruction in modern wars is far greater than the purely 'military' deaths.  Think of the destruction during World War II - still on-going these many years later! - caused by aerial bombing of cities, transportation nexus, manufacturing areas, & etc.

when push comes to shove, if someone starts an insurgency against you, you very likely have done something very wrong.

Yeah.  Like invading their country.

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Sat Sep 20th, 2008 at 11:12:57 AM EST
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Yeah.  Like invading their country.
Exactly my point.

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.
by Starvid on Sat Sep 20th, 2008 at 11:41:31 AM EST
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Where's the money going to come from?

Seriously.  The Bush administration and the GOP (neo-lib, conservative) dominance of economic policy over the last decades has gutted the US.  There isn't enough money to fight two wars, maintain a global military presence, bail-out the financial sector, pay for the weapons systems now coming on-line, and re-supply & equip the Armed Forces.  

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Sat Sep 20th, 2008 at 10:19:50 AM EST
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America is full of money. It just has to be... redistributed.

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.
by Starvid on Sat Sep 20th, 2008 at 10:52:30 AM EST
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The money is and has been redistributed: from the population to the oligarchs.  More monies thrown at the military would only acerbate this and the other economic problems the US is experiencing.


She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre
by ATinNM on Sat Sep 20th, 2008 at 11:30:00 AM EST
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