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Iraq had its ass kicked, so did the Taleban. The North Vietnamese had no chance against the Americans in a conventional war and only launched that when the Americans were leaving.

But no, I've never claimed the Americans were good at counter-insurgency.

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.

by Starvid on Sat Sep 20th, 2008 at 09:37:10 AM EST
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Kind of the point, isn't it?

One might say there is an established doctrine of how to beat the US military: Allow them into the country and then conduct guerrilla/insurgency warfare until they leave.

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Sat Sep 20th, 2008 at 10:26:46 AM EST
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Counterinsurgency is an awful horrible thing to live through and the only people who do it are insane warlike dirt poor countries with huge birth rates and nothing to lose, except blood.

(And with the high birthrate that doesn't really matter).

In more developed nations where people actually want to live reasonable lives, like in Georgia, an insurgency is hard to imagine no matter how much the neocon press has been writing about it.

And when push comes to shove, if someone starts an insurgency against you, you very likely have done something very wrong.

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.

by Starvid on Sat Sep 20th, 2008 at 10:51:03 AM EST
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Civilian deaths and destruction in modern wars is far greater than the purely 'military' deaths.  Think of the destruction during World War II - still on-going these many years later! - caused by aerial bombing of cities, transportation nexus, manufacturing areas, & etc.

when push comes to shove, if someone starts an insurgency against you, you very likely have done something very wrong.

Yeah.  Like invading their country.

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Sat Sep 20th, 2008 at 11:12:57 AM EST
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Yeah.  Like invading their country.
Exactly my point.

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.
by Starvid on Sat Sep 20th, 2008 at 11:41:31 AM EST
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