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Now he needs to make an ad about not meeting with Zapatero.

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Sep 19th, 2008 at 05:01:41 PM EST
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I LOVE the tone of the announcer.  Wonder how much they pay him to sound like an idiot?

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by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Fri Sep 19th, 2008 at 06:15:02 PM EST
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I am obviously not in their target audience.  That ad raises my opinion of Chavez quite a bit.  Who can oppose the right of the Venezuelan people to self-determination and freedom from foreign attack?
by Zwackus on Fri Sep 19th, 2008 at 06:50:32 PM EST
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Who? A terrorist-loving anti-american, that is who.

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by A swedish kind of death on Sat Sep 20th, 2008 at 09:40:32 AM EST
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damn that's some racist shit.

my favorite part is the "bleeping" of words in spanish that the english audience of course would not understand or be offended by.

by paving on Sat Sep 20th, 2008 at 04:17:01 AM EST
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There is a Spanish version of the ad as well.

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Sep 20th, 2008 at 04:19:57 AM EST
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A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Sep 20th, 2008 at 04:57:14 AM EST
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Shorter McCain: The uppity negro will talk to the scary injun. We can't have that.

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Sep 20th, 2008 at 04:58:55 AM EST
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Do they really believe that Spanish speaking swing voters (that is, apart from elite-in-exile communities) would buy this interpretation of Chavez?
by Zwackus on Sat Sep 20th, 2008 at 07:32:34 AM EST
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They must, which is quite puzzling.

However, a lot of the Spanish-speaking US vote is "white" in Latin American terms - Chávez and Morales are too "indian".

You shouldn't underestimate the anti-indigenous racism in Latin America.

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Sep 20th, 2008 at 09:20:25 AM EST
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And what's your comment on this?

The Pain in Spain Falls Mainly on McCain - TIME

Of course, there's a worst-case scenario: that McCain would, if elected, maintain his predecessor's chilly relationship with Spain. Spaniards may, on the whole, revile American politics and American comida de basura (junk food), but they still tend to measure their Prime Minister's international worth by the esteem with which the U.S. President holds him.


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by DoDo on Sat Sep 20th, 2008 at 04:37:39 AM EST
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they still tend to measure their Prime Minister's international worth by the esteem with which the U.S. President holds him

That's Aznarite concern trolling - everyone knows Bush is an asshole and influence in the EU Council counts for much more.

As for the rest, see my comments in Thursday's Salon, Friday's Salon and Thursday's Open Thread. I am intensely annoyed by the attention paid to this non-event.


A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Sep 20th, 2008 at 04:55:55 AM EST
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I checked those comments before posting this question for you - yet I must admit I don't quite understand what you are annoyed about andin what sense this is a "non-event" for you. (Also see Marek's reaction to you.)

BTW, "I will stand up to those who want to harm the United States" sounds bellingerent to me.

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One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Sat Sep 20th, 2008 at 05:09:29 AM EST
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Belligerent it is, but it was (to me) clearly boilerplate and not directed specifically at ZP.

McCain's intervention reads like "can you drop that Zapatero guy? I'm here to talk about Chávez and Morales".

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Sep 20th, 2008 at 09:15:12 AM EST
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Obama should make an ad about "McCain will not talk to Zapatero if elected" based on this footage.

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Sep 20th, 2008 at 05:01:03 AM EST
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Thanks, I haven't seen such a longer version yet.

(My thinking BTW is that Juan Carlos's behaviour was even more off than Chávez's: stupidly enacting the image of a Spanish monarch still believing himself to be Emperor of all Spanish-speaking lands.)

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One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Sat Sep 20th, 2008 at 05:15:28 AM EST
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Interestingly, the Spanish right wing and its press corps reacted to this incident by saying that the King was statesmanlike and Zapatero was ambushed because he hadn't done his homework, and that Spain's international stature was clearly diminished since Aznar left.

I agree the King was simply off...

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Sep 20th, 2008 at 09:17:01 AM EST
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