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Officiel: les barons du Parti socialiste roulent pour Ségolène Royal It's official: the barons of the Socialist Party to roll Ségolène Royal
Pour les nouveaux alliés, la désignation du candidat à la présidentielle doit être «le résultat d'une primaire ouverte au plus grand nombre de sympathisants socialistes.» According to the new allies, the nomination as presidential candidate needs to be "the result of a primary open to the greatest number of Socialist supporters."
C'est signé. L'accord entre Ségolène Royal et les représentants de «la ligne claire», regroupement de grands élus locaux du PS derrière les maires de Lyon et d'Evry, Gérard Collomb et Manuel Valls, et le patron du conseil général des Bouches du Rhône Jean-Noël Guérini, est bouclé. Constatant «la proximité et la convergence des textes» déposés dans le cadre de la préparation du congrès de Reims, et brandissant leur «volonté de faire cesser la dispersion et la confusion préjudiciables au débat démocratique», ces deux composantes du parti «ont décidé d'en prendre acte en rédigeant une motion commune». It is signed. The agreement between Ségolène Royal and representatives of "the clear line", a grouping of major local elected officials of the PS behind the mayors of Lyon and Evry, Gérard Collomb and Manuel Valls, and the boss of the General Council of Bouches du Rhone, Jean-Noel Guerini, is complete. Noting that "the proximity and the convergence of the texts" filed as part of preparations for the congress of Reims, and brandishing their "willingness to stop the divisions and the confusion that is detrimental to the democratic debate", both components of the party "decided to take note of drafting a joint motion"



*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Fri Sep 19th, 2008 at 05:13:01 PM EST
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I read the English translation and still don't have any idea what this means.
by paving on Sat Sep 20th, 2008 at 04:13:44 AM EST
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That a powerful rival camp declared they will stop trying to undermine Royal's eventual choice as the Socialist Party's next presidential candidate.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sat Sep 20th, 2008 at 04:40:03 AM EST
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Glad I'm not the only one. My first suspicion was that she would 'roll', as in, depart. But the verb refers to them rolling or driving...and she certainly is smiling.

That picture carries one of the reasons that I like her. She has such a comfortable smile. Not made up, not too serene, just enjoying. And that, unsurprisingly, carries through with the things that she supports, and the way she supports them.

I wish her well. Someday there will be an era when good people can win, when we can have intelligent leaders.

Never underestimate their intelligence, always underestimate their knowledge.

Frank Delaney ~ Ireland

by siegestate (siegestate or beyondwarispeace.com) on Sat Sep 20th, 2008 at 04:41:46 AM EST
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I liked the photo for the contrast between her smile and that of the guy in the background: his appears to be a politicians' calclated smile.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sat Sep 20th, 2008 at 04:44:16 AM EST
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Royal looks good on pictures ; but since the very awful performance she gave in the presidential election debate, it got mighty hard to trust her as actual leader of the left. Going to an election with as a big, important proposal that women cops in tough neighbourhoods will be driven home...

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères
by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Sat Sep 20th, 2008 at 03:21:42 PM EST
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Here is a funny thing.

According to the latest Figaro-TNS Sofres poll, only 34% have confidence in Sarko. However, only 37% (+2) wish Royal to play an important role - Strauss-Kahn and Jack Lang, two centre-leftists wooed by Sarko (the latter a full-blown traitor) rank above her. But, among those left of center, so does Paris mayor Delanoë ()49% -- and Trot leader Besançenot (43%, +3)!

But what's really interesting is opinion according to political orientation. Apparently, Royal is in a much closer packed top three for leftist voters, but centrists and right-wingers hate her much more than even the commie. Is this 'just' sexism?

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Sat Sep 20th, 2008 at 04:56:42 AM EST
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Sad that all our best reporters on French affairs are off-line when this happens. I'd like a diary enlightening us about the battles inside the PS, where from the little I gathered, Royal gets the support of the centrists, Martine Aubry that of the leftists, and Delanoë might be the one to go through in the choice of party leader with a uniter image. My impression is that even without the likes of Jack Lang, the centrists are ready to blow up the party if it doesn't go their way, but don't know about Royal.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sat Sep 20th, 2008 at 05:19:11 AM EST
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gets the centrists of the party, not of the population (well, both her and Delanoe are an odd mix of center-left and traditional left - just different mixes).

She also get the local militants and federations, as opposed to the Paris barons. Lyon and Marseilles and important federations, but they are not really barons.

It still looks like 3 blocks or equal size at this point. The only hope is that thi internal election allows for an uncontsted leader to emerge, with the party coalescing around him/her. If infighting goes on after the election, it will be catastrophic.

As a side note: most of the time, when I actually read texts written by either of the socialist leaders, there's very little to quibble with on the substance (ie they are on the left and they have appropriate policy proposals) - but somehow that is not the impression conveyed by the media, not by the supposely lefy intellectual, many of which have drifted right massively (whether for political/geopolitical reasons like Glucksmann and BHL (neocons-leaning), or for economic reasons like Attali and his ilk (neolib-leaning).

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Sat Sep 20th, 2008 at 05:57:49 AM EST
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It brings back DoDo's question of whether this (the press' movement to paint the wrong picture) points to a sexism.

Never underestimate their intelligence, always underestimate their knowledge.

Frank Delaney ~ Ireland

by siegestate (siegestate or beyondwarispeace.com) on Sat Sep 20th, 2008 at 07:06:56 AM EST
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Two points :

Who writes the socialists' leaders' texts ? Themselves, or their advisors ? I'm not sure many of those written texts are actually read or cared about. Royal clearly said after the election that she didn't care all that much about the PS platform.

Are those lefty platforms actually defended by the PS leaders ? With all the calls for a Bayrou alliance, it's not all that clear. And it's clear the media - not only the intellectuals or the economists - have stopped to agree relaying any kind of leftish viewpoints on social and economic matters ; even Libé is often very centerish.

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères

by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Sat Sep 20th, 2008 at 03:19:25 PM EST
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Sad that all our best reporters on French affairs are off-line when this happens

They should be tied with metaphors and whipped with analogies for their sloth.

Never underestimate their intelligence, always underestimate their knowledge.

Frank Delaney ~ Ireland

by siegestate (siegestate or beyondwarispeace.com) on Sat Sep 20th, 2008 at 07:00:22 AM EST
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To be more specific: it would be great if redstar, linca, Jérôme and Cyrille would all give their separate profiles/views of the left-of-centre main players here, especially Aubry and Besancenot [I don't know why I want to automatically attach a cedille to his c].

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sat Sep 20th, 2008 at 07:19:41 AM EST
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I must admit I'm not following the innards struggle of the PS very closely. I don't watch the TV news, and right now none of the dailies is to my liking...

Also, it seems much of the struggle is straight about personalities, alliances, rather than anything really resembling political stances. For example, Royal getting Guerini's support is very important, not because Guerini would be anything like a heavyweight, but because the Bouches-du-Rhône PS section is one of the largest in France, carrying a lot of votes - many of which barely legitimate. The number of adhesion card given by the PS is rising fast, and not necessarily corresponding to an actual rise in live members : apparently the PS elections suffer a fair amount of manipulation.

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères

by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Sat Sep 20th, 2008 at 04:55:22 PM EST
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Heh...

And what's your take on Besancenot?

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Sun Sep 21st, 2008 at 08:33:24 AM EST
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Well, he seems to have replaced Laguiller as "that person who's truly far left but likeable". LCR replacing LO (which has its importance for those interested in actual trostkyist theory).

The first question being, is Besancenot an actual leader of the far left or just the mouthpiece of Krivine, the real boss of LCR since '68 ? (the situation in Laguiller's LO was similar, with Hardy the actual leader of that party).

Secondly, the far left has been in disarray, with the PCF getting closer to irrelevancy with each election season ; the more libertarian and ecologists elements, the "altermondialists", gravitating towards Jose Bove ; and LCR and Besancenot displacing Laguiller for the "popular far left vote".

Right now, it seems Bove is uniting with the Greens and "apolitical ecologist" Nicolas Hulot for the EP elections, thus leaving the far left political ground wide open for LCR. With European Elections, with their proportional representation and relative National irrelevance, usually marking the high tide of small parties, LCR could poll fairly high - it'll be interesting to see how much.

Besancenot may be the only real opposition voice heard regularly in the media, but I don't see LCR starting the kind of ground work necessary to create class consciousness - like what the PCF was doing in the '50s and '60s. So I'm not sure their popularity can translate to much more than the traditional - and more and more ineffective, with the current right wing media we're having - support for some more demonstration and strikes ; I don't see them helping give weight to the worker's side in the national balance of power.

As LCR is right now refusing any eventuality of government participation, there's also the danger they'd install themselves in the very comfortable position of an ineffectual, but long lasting, far left systematic opposition, which would even be worse.

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères

by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Sun Sep 21st, 2008 at 08:05:57 PM EST
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