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Have they watched teh Katie Couric interview?

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by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Oct 1st, 2008 at 08:40:33 AM EST
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Migeru: Have they watched teh Katie Couric interview?

Yes.  They admit it was bad.  But they say she only had weeks to prepare, unlike Obama, who has had many months of interview training.  Also, they have watched her in the Alaska gubernatorial debate and her interviews as governor, from which they claim she is obviously smart enough to president.  They also hold out the possibility that given the short time she had to prepare for these recent interviews, the McCain campaign overdid it by trying to cram too many talking points in her and thus undermining her confidence.

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by marco on Wed Oct 1st, 2008 at 08:53:06 AM EST
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Are you kidding me? If she can't handle 6 weeks of coaching by the McCain media team she's not fit to be one heartbeat away from the Oval Office.

they have watched her in the Alaska gubernatorial debate and her interviews as governor, from which they claim she is obviously smart enough to president.

Well, that explains how she managed to get elected Mayor and Governor. She's not actually a moron, she's just beyond her depth and cracking under pressure.

she only had weeks to prepare, unlike Obama, who has had many months of interview training

That doesn't hold water - she must have learned to pass an interview in her years as Councilwoman, Mayor and now Governor. Like Obama as community organizer, State Legislator and Senator.

given the short time she had to prepare for these recent interviews, the McCain campaign overdid it by trying to cram too many talking points in her and thus undermining her confidence

That is plausible - but then refer to the to pof this comment, and why do you need to cram talking points into her? Because the MCCain campaign knows she's an airhead or - worse - a dangerous right-wing fundagelical wacko and don't want her to speak her mind?

Did you see the "name a couple newspapers or magazines" segment of the Kouric interview?

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Oct 1st, 2008 at 09:07:38 AM EST
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Good stuff.  (I guess I was too tired/exasperated to try to respond to them when I got that email.)

Migeru: ... why do you need to cram talking points into her? Because the MCCain campaign knows she's an airhead or - worse - a dangerous right-wing fundagelical wacko and don't want her to speak her mind?

I am guessing their response to this would be that what counts more is aptitude, not knowledge, and they would point back to Bill Clinton who had little foreign policy experience coming into office, and took many months to get up to speed.  One conservative journalist I heard on the radio pointed out that "There is nothing wrong with saying, 'I don't know,' but Palin made the mistake of trying to fudge her way out of her ignorance, which just blew up in her face."  This might be because her handlers focused too much on getting her to be able to give "good answers".

Did you see the "name a couple newspapers or magazines" segment of the Kouric interview?

No, I didn't.  And just thinking about it, I am already cringing.  (Wow, I guess I am starting to feel sorry for her.)

Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.

by marco on Wed Oct 1st, 2008 at 09:29:42 AM EST
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Newspapers.

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Oct 1st, 2008 at 09:33:59 AM EST
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Migeru: Newspapers.

Oof.  I'll have to watch the video, but I don't think even intense interview anxiety/fatigue can excuse that answer.

Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.

by marco on Wed Oct 1st, 2008 at 10:23:30 AM EST
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sums Palin up pretty well.

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Oct 1st, 2008 at 10:27:22 AM EST
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I am guessing their response to this would be that what counts more is aptitude, not knowledge, and they would point back to Bill Clinton who had little foreign policy experience coming into office, and took many months to get up to speed.

How do you prove aptitude?

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Oct 1st, 2008 at 09:36:07 AM EST
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Migeru: How do you prove aptitude?

You don't prove it.  You just feel it in your gut.

Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.

by marco on Wed Oct 1st, 2008 at 10:17:03 AM EST
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Don't feel sorry for her. She's deadly. She has the classic charm of a sociopath, but there's nothing behind it except greed, ignorance, cronyism, messianic ambition and simmering pathological rage.
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Wed Oct 1st, 2008 at 09:37:08 AM EST
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hmm...do you have hourly rates for long distance diagnosis?
devastatingly accurate!
i see her historical necessity, similar to bush 2.0, to externalise cognitive dissonance, so we can have a good, long, hard look into its distorted mirror image.

collective evolutionary aversion therapy!

she's a triumph of symbolic trumping real, and she's made it to alpha female barracuda in a very small pond.

thrown in with the killer whites, she's an intellectual minnow, running scared, trying not to blink, which adds to the fishy aspect.

she's a cartoon! even more than gwb, who is sort of a cartoon of a cartoon, a cheating yalie fakin' to be a texan. not even a real cartoon.

sarah is the real deal, sprouted raw from america's shadow psyche.

marge simpson gone b-a-d.

the damage this talking doll could do if president makes junior look positively benign.

incidentally i know this is all a dream and i will wake up presently.

'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Wed Oct 1st, 2008 at 07:18:50 PM EST
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Migeru:
Because the MCCain campaign knows she's an airhead or - worse - a dangerous right-wing fundagelical wacko and don't want her to speak her mind?

er, both?

and more, she's an unvetted time bomb with a fuse length as yet uncertain.

'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Wed Oct 1st, 2008 at 07:23:34 PM EST
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About a week and a half ago there was a diary on dKos explaining Palin's management style with quotes from people who worked with her.

It'll be somewhere in the dKos hive memory, but I suspect given the deluge of all things Palin it would take about at least a couple of hours to pull it out from there.

There's enough from other sources - almost any source will do, and this is a good start - to prove that her management style is classically authoritarian, with a vicious mix of ignorance and limitless personal ambition combined with contempt and rage against anyone who doesn't support her.

With apologies to Godwin, but she really is quite the Nazi. She won't be rounding up people and gassing them, although no one knows how far her contempt for liberals and 'baby killers' really goes, because she's never had enough power to allow it free reign without consequences.

It doesn't seem to be an exaggeration that she'd be more than happy to start lobbing nukes at Russia at the slightest pretext, irrespective of the nukes likely to be lobbed back, because she has no ability to understand the inevitable outcome.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Wed Oct 1st, 2008 at 09:28:40 AM EST
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Don't you know by now that the New York Times is a cathedral of northeastern liberalism and they are completely uncredible when it comes to John McCain and Sarah Palin?

Actually, one correspondent says the anti-Palin hatred "borders on the deranged", pointing out (at that time) that four of the top ten emailed articles on the New York Times were anti-Palin.

So more "objective" sources must be found.

I will try spelunking the DailyKos hive memory.  Thanks for the leads.

(Incidentally, I was recommended the following links as more reliable sources of information about Palin:

Palin Rumors

Palin 'governed from the center,' went after big oil )

Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.

by marco on Wed Oct 1st, 2008 at 10:12:26 AM EST
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People's ability to rationalise evidence away is nothing short of astonishing.

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Oct 1st, 2008 at 10:17:57 AM EST
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Look, I've had exactly ZERO weeks to prepare and no past experience of that kind of stuff, and I would do better in the Katie Couric interview, AND that includes the fact that it would take place in a foreign language with an accent that is not the one I have learnt and use, and that I find much harder to understand that the Kentish one I speak. We're not comparing her to Obama there. Merely comparing her to someone with a minimum level of intellectual curiosity and some command of the English language. She fails that test.

I can, of the top of my head, name quite a few US Newspapers even though I am European and, wait for it, quite a few that I actually read or have read.
If you allow me to include internet tribunes and blogs the list will just grow longer. Not to mention, er, stuff written in my mother tongue to which I am actually a subscriber.

I can explain without help from an interviewer that Alaska has borders with Russia and Canada (I can even explain why it's the most Northern, Western AND Eastern state in USA -explanations on request), and that (some -alas, only some) reporters found that a rather funny justification of foreign policy experience. Wait for it -I can understand WHY they'd find it funny.

Did I mention that I am not running for office, though?

Look, she can't even understand a simple question. The stuff about linking tax cuts with initiatives to create jobs when answering the opportunity of bailing out Wall Street in the middle of foreclosure is amazing.

Now, if your friends can't see that, I would stop trying to use logic. It won't work.

"It failed because Nacy Pelosi said some unkind things about George Bush in her speech"

by Cyrille (cyrillev domain yahoo.fr) on Wed Oct 1st, 2008 at 10:50:46 AM EST
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you are French and believe in gouvernment. Of course you know more about gouverning than somebody, who is there just to prevent gouverning from happen.

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by Martin (weiser.mensch(at)googlemail.com) on Wed Oct 1st, 2008 at 12:02:19 PM EST
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