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I don't know enough about the German political scene, but the quotes that are posted here from Der Spiegel hardly seem like they're pushing the progressive envelope.

Well... on one hand, despite what Martin says about different starting points, "left-of-center" doesn't necessarily mean "progressive" anymore in Germany either. On the other hand, SPIEGEL is historically more close to the liberal FDP, which historically swung between the centre-left and centre-right, so their neolib+neocon swing may not be representative of say state TV journalists.

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by DoDo on Thu Sep 11th, 2008 at 04:17:27 AM EST
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The economic department of the spiegel is clearly right-of-center.
Is insulting parents, when they don't want to give their children into a public Kindergarten as well neolib+neocon?
At least I know now that neither Milton Friedman nor G.W.Bush are either neolib or neocon.

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by Martin (weiser.mensch(at)googlemail.com) on Thu Sep 11th, 2008 at 09:06:59 AM EST
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I'm not sure what's your point about neolib+neocon; but I wrote it thinking of the parallel movements of SPIEGEL's economic department (neolib, and that already in the closet in Augstein's time) and writing on foreign policy/internal security (neocon, after the Aust takeover, openly only from late 2003 or so). (Note BTW that SPIEGEL printed articles critical of the Kosovo War while the bombing went on.)

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Thu Sep 11th, 2008 at 09:34:01 AM EST
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