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because [in Europe] money is not passed to politicos directly

It isn't?

by MarekNYC on Thu Sep 11th, 2008 at 11:56:49 AM EST
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Oh?

Hah, I thought the EU members rated well on bribery and such.

by Upstate NY on Thu Sep 11th, 2008 at 12:00:14 PM EST
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Well - rated well, but not perfect :-)

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Thu Sep 11th, 2008 at 12:01:20 PM EST
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Italy?, France?, Suitcases full of cash from shady arms dealers passed on in dark empty parking lots.

And I'm not even going to start on the ex communist states.

by MarekNYC on Thu Sep 11th, 2008 at 12:04:21 PM EST
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Just watch out for the frontpsage tomorrow.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Thu Sep 11th, 2008 at 12:54:52 PM EST
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I think what Martin is talking about is the presence of PACs and similar 'soft money' channels in the US political context. This creates an explicit and quasi-legitimate link between various corporate interest groups and the pols they have paid forshared their concerns with and this drives any discussion of policy matters to be framed in terms of lobbyist-mandated power relations and factions as a matter of course.

On the Euro side there may well be plenty of money arriving with the pols via anonymous suitcases and/or plain brown envelopes, but because this is plainly and clearly illegitimate it allows us to maintain the conceit that policy considerations are not structured by the priorities of corporate benefectors (even if the actuality is rather different).

So it's not that our pols aren't whoring themselves to the corps, it's that the default assumption of their being bought and paid for doesn't structure our political discourse the way it does Stateside.

Regards
Luke


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by silburnl on Fri Sep 12th, 2008 at 12:20:12 PM EST
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No, it is not,a t least Spain. No money can reach ever the president or a minister. It is just forbidden.

Money suitcases are more lower orders, majors, adn in some cases head of finantial apparatus in political parties....for the networking...

As I said, the important thing is networking, who knows who.. and what you are going to do after you quit government.

A pleasure

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by kcurie on Thu Sep 11th, 2008 at 12:36:17 PM EST
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