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WW I was terrible because there were war mongers on both sides, and a culture of war on both sides. Pro-war propaganda was hardly necessary in Germany or the UK - there were plenty of people willing to fight a war without it, from the frankly psychotic Kaiser down.

It's very hard to imagine that kind of patriotism in the EU today. The US is certainly still infected with it, but nothing makes people less reluctant to fight wars than seeing most of your generation destroyed and most of your country bombed to rubble.

I doubt the US will change its mind about war until that happens.

As for Israel - Israel has always been good for business. We can continue to be outraged and horrified, but Israel is so damn profitable for arms dealers - via a US subsidy, which is nicely circular - that war is going to remain the natural state there.

'Serious' people aren't even slightly interested in peace.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Tue Jan 13th, 2009 at 12:14:50 PM EST

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