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I'd seen the link to that earlier, but couldnt see it straight away and thought that here was as good as anywhere. hadn't seen the original source other than the Palestinians who could have been dismissed as Propaganda far too easily.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Wed Jan 21st, 2009 at 12:53:28 PM EST
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There was a video going around of a blackened Palestinian baby almost burnt to a crisp by a phosphorous bomb.

Maybe I don't want to find it. It was sickening.

by shergald on Wed Jan 21st, 2009 at 05:03:37 PM EST
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Now I dont want to see it either, and this may sound callous, but does being burned by white phosphorous look any different to being burned any other way?

Now it's going to be denied, we all know that. but is there a way to tell?

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Wed Jan 21st, 2009 at 07:04:25 PM EST
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I'd imagine that it does look perceptibly different. After all, humans do not, generally, burn on their own accord. The human body contains quite a lot of water, which has to evaporate before the dry matter can burn. Even fatal burns usually don't strip away much more than the skin - so if your arm is burned through to the bone, Somebody Did It Deliberately. Whether it's possible to tell the difference between napalm and phosphorous, I'll leave to the forensics people, but it's for damn certain that you didn't have an accident with a jug of kerosene. Or even concentrated sulfuric acid.

- Jake

Friends come and go. Enemies accumulate.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Thu Jan 22nd, 2009 at 05:00:57 AM EST
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The point may be that the use of these kinds of bombs are prohibited by international law, especially when you are intentionally bombing civilian targets.

by shergald on Thu Jan 22nd, 2009 at 11:03:22 AM EST
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Yes and I get the point, all I'm asking is is it easily visually recognisable that someone has been burned by phosphorous rather than anything else? easily enough that it can be pointed out to someone who is of a denialist frame of mind.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Thu Jan 22nd, 2009 at 01:31:26 PM EST
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What I heard as an explanation on the news was that
'the victims had no pieces of shrapnel or other matter, but were critically burned'.  I don't know if that in itself justifies the diagnosis, or if Gaza hospitals had no other means to confirm it at the time.  

Our knowledge has surpassed our wisdom. -Charu Saxena.
by metavision on Sat Jan 24th, 2009 at 02:07:30 PM EST
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News reports tonight said there were strange burns, and shrapnel should be easily found by x-ray, if it isn't instantly obvious from the holes in the body.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sat Jan 24th, 2009 at 02:19:47 PM EST
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