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How many people - even here on ET - can list a significant number of policy areas where the European Parliament (as opposed to the Commission or Council) made a decisive contribution?

Well -- what about the Parliament of Ireland? Can you list decisive contributions not spearheaded by the government?

Claiming credit for reducing mobile phone roaming rates within the EU hardly justifies the expense of 750 Parliamentarians over a 5 year period.

I don't like the framing of this -- especially when it is not entirely in the MEPs power to make greater contributions.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Thu Jan 29th, 2009 at 03:25:38 AM EST
The marginalisation of Parliament is also a particular problem in Ireland - with the "social partners" becoming the key group in negotiating a National Recovery Plan at the moment - as a key example.   However we also don't  have a radical separation between Parliament and executive - as the executive members are also all parliamentarians - and ultimately all their power derives from having a majority in parliament.  The issues of jobs, taxation, economic recovery, law and order, government investment in infrastructure are all very critical issues to people's lives whereas the EP simply doesn't have much competence in these areas to engage with people and make a difference.

notes from no w here
by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Thu Jan 29th, 2009 at 08:23:13 AM EST
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This isn't so different to elsewhere in the EU, where many countries - and apparently the EU as a whole - seem more interested in democracy theatre than democracy.

Healthy democracy means participation outside of the usual voting circus. But hosting a blogging competition and conference and then excluding bloggers from it because they happen not to be professional journalists shows the incredibly ineptness of the EU's communications people, and their inability to engage with their populations in an effective way.

Frank Schnittger:

The issues of jobs, taxation, economic recovery, law and order, government investment in infrastructure are all very critical issues to people's lives whereas the EP simply doesn't have much competence in these areas to engage with people and make a difference.

Actually it does, and has done, but it has also been very bad at linking positive results to EU/EP influence. So to most people the EP simply doesn't exist as a viable democratic body - it's politically invisible, giving the misleading impression that it's also politically ineffectual.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Thu Jan 29th, 2009 at 09:07:17 AM EST
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As I see it, parlamentarians with an entirely independent policy from the government may be fun, but I have nothing against a parliament that functions as a debater and modifier of a government from its midst. (Oh, and elected parliamentarians in ministerial posts seems to be more accountability than people picked from the outside -- say from big corporations --, even if they will be run in the most safe seats by their parties.)

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Thu Jan 29th, 2009 at 01:16:15 PM EST
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REACH
Voting the Santer commission out?
Getting rid of the first Berlusconi commissioner?

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Thu Jan 29th, 2009 at 11:56:53 AM EST
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Wow 3!  You win the prize.  But then you are hardly stereotypical of the average EP voter!

So is the problem in your view a very poor PR effort by the EP, or the fact that it doesn't have sufficient powers in the first place?

notes from no w here

by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Thu Jan 29th, 2009 at 04:33:15 PM EST
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