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... no subway, that's for sure ... though €42m/km would be in the rough ballpark of the cost per km of proposed closure, A$80m/km.


I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.
by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Tue Jan 6th, 2009 at 05:37:55 PM EST
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I don't remember whether the part they allude to is subterranean (It is probably NOT). MetroMadrid is nevertheless known to have a very aggressive policy of developing new lines and is cited as a model for the (paris) transport authority. (see minutes of "Conférence métropolitaine" meetings)
by Xavier in Paris on Wed Jan 7th, 2009 at 06:04:28 AM EST
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Metrosur is a 40Km tunnel. The Line 10 extension is above ground.

Since then, more above-ground sections have been build at the end of various lines, as well as three light-rail (tram) branches.

See also Local Rail - An Overview
by DoDo
on July 2nd, 2007.

Metro Madrid added more than 40 km (25 mi) in a four-year period to 2003, and another 56 km (35 mi) heavy metro this year -- to a total of 283 km (176 mi) -- note that Madrid is a city of just 3.2 million. The showcase project of the previous four years was Line 12 (yellowish green on the map), nicknamed MetroSur. This ring line doesn't circle the city, but serves a couple of suburban towns by distributing traffic from radial subway and rapid transit lines. Planning, tendering, boring, fitting out with concrete lining and tracks and electronics of this 40.5 km all-tunnel line; station construction; and purchase, testing and commissioning of subway trains was all done within four years and on a budget of only €1.1 billion! On time and budget in the extreme! Compare that to the time and cost earmarked for New York's 8.5-mile Second Avenue Subway project.


Most economists teach a theoretical framework that has been shown to be fundamentally useless. -- James K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jan 7th, 2009 at 06:12:28 AM EST
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... machines versus cut and cover, I'd venture to say that it is in whole or part subterranean.

This project is not establishing a new rail corridor, it is establishing an enhanced local rail service, primarily in an existing "Y" corridor, without interfering with existing regional rail services. So the indicative costings I need are for bits and pieces, not for whole project costs for all new lines.

But thanks, I'll be adding the links to the New Oil at Midnight Oil.


I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.

by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Wed Jan 7th, 2009 at 07:19:31 AM EST
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Try these two articles on Madrid's light rail.

Findarticles.com: Madrid shifts emphasis from metro to light rail... (International Railway Journal,  Sept, 2006  by Barry Cross)

"The Sanchinarro Line is being built for 262.25 million [euro], including rolling stock. Conventional metro tunnels cost around 60 million [euro]/km, whereas here the cost is just 20 million [euro] to 25 million [euro]," Herrera observes, noting that a kilometre of surface line costs 70% less to build than a deep metro line. There will be five underground stations and four surface ones. The terminal at Pinar de Charmartin will also be the new terminus of extensions to lines 1 and 4 of the metro. The other terminal will connect with the new 15.7km Metronorte light metro line, due to open next year, serving the satellite communities of San Sebastian de los Reyes and Alcobendas.

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The other two lines, on which construction began in February 2005, will function as a single entity marketed as Metro West, and will serve an estimated 90,000 residents. The 30-year concession for Metro West went to a different consortium consisting of OHL, Comsa, Ahorro de Corporacion Desarrollo and Transdev, which entered a bid of 523 million [euro]. Significantly, Transdev was chosen by Metro Tenerife to operate its new light rail line (IRJ June p39).

Both Metro West lines start at an underground complex at Colonia Jardin, where passengers can connect with Line 10 of the metro. The 13.7km Boadilla del Monte Line T3, which has 14 stations, is costing 210.53 million [euro]. The area through which it passes consists almost entirely of new housing and commercial development, which has allowed the planners to map out an alignment that has 90% surface running. Indeed, the longest underground section was built purely to enable the line to pass beneath a highway.

Line T3 is remarkable in that it mostly serves industrial parks and no residential areas until it reaches Boadilla del Monte at the end of the line.

See more information at Railway-Technology.com's page on the Madrid Light Rail.

Most economists teach a theoretical framework that has been shown to be fundamentally useless. -- James K. Galbraith

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jan 7th, 2009 at 06:21:41 AM EST
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