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The SPD doesn't need Die Linke, but is the CDU any more (or less) likely to give the SPD the Ministerpräsident position than die Linke is

It is out of question that the CDU would let there be an SPD PM, much less an SPD PM chosen by the SPD without any input from the CDU. They can't use the acceptability argument on the CDU as they have used it against Ramelow.

So I'm going to put forward the hypothesis that the SPD had their post-election bargaining strategy already decided beforehand, on the assumption that they would come second, and played the different hand they were dealt in the same way.


  1. The difference vs. the other two was just too big in polls for any such illusions.
  2. What they staged was not hard bargain for real gains that failed. After all, they already got most of what they wanted: Ramelow backing down, Greens in as third partner (would be no need for them for a majority) andacceptance of an SPD PM. There is no other interpretation than them staging negotiations meant to fail. (In fact, already the quite personal demands for Ramelow to back down and the Greens taken in might have been intended to get the Left Party to draw a line.)
  3. As per above, the SPD went much further against the Left Party that it could possibly go against the CDU.
  4. Why else would Matschie lie about the reasons of the failure such blatantly? It's not in the diary, but I note that it wasn't just a simple claim: Matschie went to the media afterwards and explained everywhere how untrustworthy the Left Party supposedly has been during the talks, wavering on the SPD PM issue.
  5. If the SPD had been serious about negotiating hard, then they would have ued the Greens whom they brought in as support, rather than get them riled, too.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sat Oct 10th, 2009 at 03:47:18 PM EST
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So the SPD were just trying to fool the public into believing Die Linke were unworthy of their vote at the next election?

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Oct 10th, 2009 at 03:52:53 PM EST
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One never knows what such stupid FAIL strategies were meant for, but I'd look for something much more short-term: fooling SPD voters and the party base into believing that the desired left-wing replacement of the longtime CDU government was impossible due to Die Linke. "Sorry, we couldn't toss the corrupt incumbents from power, the unreliable Leftists left us no other option than trying to constrain the pigs in a coalition."

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sat Oct 10th, 2009 at 04:01:15 PM EST
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