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Soutien-gorge interdit en Somalie \| LeMatin.ch		Bras banned in Somalia \| LeMatin.ch
En Somalie, sous peine de coups de fouet, les seins doivent être nus sous le voile des musulmanes. C'est le mouvement Al-Chabab («Jeunesse» en arabe) qui en a décidé ainsi. Ce groupe islamiste, qui n'a rien à envier aux talibans d'Afghanistan, contrôle plusieurs régions dans le sud et le centre de la Somalie, ainsi qu'une grande partie de Mogadiscio.		In Somalia, under penalty of lashes, Muslim women must keep their breasts bare under the veil, the Al-Shabab ("Youth" in Arabic) movement has decided. The Islamist group, which has nothing to envy from the Taliban in Afghanistan, is controlling several regions in southern and central Somalia, and large parts of Mogadishu.
Convaincus que le port du soutien-gorge va à l'encontre de l'enseignement de l'islam, des militants d'Al-Chabab ont fouetté ces derniers jours en public plusieurs femmes qui portaient ce sous-vêtement. Selon eux, «le soutien-gorge trompe sur l'état naturel des seins, accentue les formes féminines et suscite des désirs sexuels». Les miliciens multiplient donc les points de contrôle pour exiger des femmes qu'elles sautent et secouent le torse, pour vérifier si les seins bougent naturellement...		Convinced that wearing a bra goes against the teachings of Islam, Al-Shabab militants have whipped in public several women who bore the underwear during the last days, . According to them, "the bra misleads about the natural state of the breasts, accentuates the woman's forms and arouses sexual desires". The militiamen hence multiply the check points, asking women to jump and shake the torso to verify if their breasts move naturally ...

"Ce qui vient au monde pour ne rien troubler ne mérite ni égards ni patience." René Char

by Melanchthon on Fri Nov 13th, 2009 at 11:39:33 AM EST

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These Muslim fundamentalists need to get laid...

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Nov 13th, 2009 at 11:58:49 AM EST
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Sex-hating magic-worshipers.

Not just a Muslim thing, although this is bizarre on a higher level than typical religionism among the Christianists here.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Fri Nov 13th, 2009 at 12:17:22 PM EST
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What do you mean sex-hating?

Here you have a group of "youth" setting up checkpoints at which they make women jump so they can watch their breasts bounce. Then they spank them.

Sounds like what your average college fraternity might want to do but wouldn't dare to.

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Nov 13th, 2009 at 12:28:54 PM EST
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Your average college frat isn't armed and keeping women in bee-keeper suits. I could imagine something like this in a bizarre party theme at a frat, but then there's a certain group of women in colleges who hang out with frat guys and go for that stuff. They also wouldn't be dragging women off the street at random to check.

It goes back to the Women Are Icky And Liars mentality that the ultra-religious all have. Hence sex-hating.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Fri Nov 13th, 2009 at 12:52:57 PM EST
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It's not so much sex hating as sex obsessed. And I don't think they believe women are icky so much as fascinatingly armed with the seductive power of naked boobies.

It's a way of asserting control over strong emotions that might otherwise become overwhelming.

It's not a coincidence that if you lift up the rock the fundie types live under, all kinds of sexual weirdness comes wriggling out. I'd guess they experience desire as an overpowering threat to their fragile sense of personal dominion and sovereignty.

It's also not a coincidence that the wackier fundies get, the more this kind of thing happens, until everyone is living in Gilead - which isn't just a repressed place, it's also a very kinky one.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Fri Nov 13th, 2009 at 01:08:55 PM EST
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Just good, old-fashioned:

I feel X when I look at you. Therefore, you are the cause of X. Since X is bad I must change you so I don't feel X when I look at you.

The thought they are responsible for X never crosses their mind.

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Fri Nov 13th, 2009 at 01:35:22 PM EST
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I think it's best described as self-loathing that emerges out of the incompatibility of sex drives with christian ideals of purity.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Fri Nov 13th, 2009 at 02:17:56 PM EST
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and I mention christianity because that's what I'm familiar with. Although from one monotheistic religion to another I doubt there is much difference.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Fri Nov 13th, 2009 at 02:19:10 PM EST
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Abrahamic is as Abrahamic does...

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Nov 13th, 2009 at 02:54:10 PM EST
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But they're MUSLINS!

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Fri Nov 13th, 2009 at 02:56:18 PM EST
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Precisely!

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Nov 13th, 2009 at 02:58:01 PM EST
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They hate us for our freedom!

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Fri Nov 13th, 2009 at 03:17:28 PM EST
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Your average college frat isn't armed

What, you have gun control now?

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Nov 14th, 2009 at 03:48:43 AM EST
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