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It's quite the week for outing emails. This via Roger Pielke Jr, who posted this even prior to the released CRU emails becoming news:

Roger Pielke Jr.'s Blog

A very prominent climate scientist, who writes from a .gov address, sends this to my father after my father simply responded to a scientific query from another climate scientist who put the .gov guy (his colleague) on the distro list (along with a bunch of others, including me):
Roger,

Please remove me from your email distribution list. I have no desire to communicate with you. Ever.

XXXXXXXXX
That message comes across a bit like sticking your fingers in your ears and screaming "I'M NOT LISTENING I'M NOT LISTENING". Climate science has a few remarkable human beings in it, that is for sure.

This is becoming increasingly infantile.

by Nomad on Sat Nov 21st, 2009 at 01:24:50 PM EST
Sunlight is the best disinfectant.

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Sat Nov 21st, 2009 at 01:36:50 PM EST
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Maybe this kind of behavior is more pervasive than you might think.
by t-------------- on Sat Nov 21st, 2009 at 03:02:43 PM EST
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Considering Climate Science has some contact with experiment, I would rank this as more infantile than even the quantum gravity infighting.

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Nov 22nd, 2009 at 07:32:26 AM EST
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now who is drawing conclusions about an entire discipline from a sample of 1.

Do you have any idea of the volume of email that a senior researcher or academic receives daily?

You can certainly get a good idea of the nature of the denialist email that they would recieve---in floods---by looking at the comments sections of any website related to climate. I know it would make me a little short tempered.

by PIGL (stevec@boreal.gmail@com) on Sun Nov 22nd, 2009 at 10:26:39 AM EST
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I don't understand your commentary at all.

You are aware who Pielke Jr. and Pielke Sr. are I hope?

by Nomad on Sun Nov 22nd, 2009 at 10:56:50 AM EST
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I kind of know the senior of the two. My point was that a reference by the son to a grouchy (even hostile) email response by the father to another email not provided in evidence, proves nothing about the general state of climate science.
by PIGL (stevec@boreal.gmail@com) on Sun Nov 22nd, 2009 at 01:48:34 PM EST
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It doesn't say anything about the science; it does say a little thing about the climate existing between scientists.

Nitpick: it is an email response to Pielke Sr. and not by him...?

by Nomad on Mon Nov 23rd, 2009 at 12:19:29 AM EST
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Do you have any idea of the volume of email that a senior researcher or academic receives daily?

Yes certainly, And having deealt with people doing both that and Islamic Academics in the weeks after 9/11 (Compared to which climate deniars email streams are the merest trickle) the across the board advice is always (And has been from every academic IT department I  have ever known) Treat them as message board trolls, Ignore them, they are not going to listen. My personal email accounts used to consist of my real email account, an entirely unfiltered email account so I could assess how much junk was actually arriving on site, and a third one where all the filtered email that had failed the junkmail tests would arrive, to be chacked and forwarded on in case the  junk filters had become over agressive. The first day after a weeks holiday would always consist of checking through email and nothing else. Holidays would result in 8,000 emails a week
, a vast majority, utter rubbish.

You can certainly get a good idea of the nature of the denialist email that they would recieve---in floods---by looking at the comments sections of any website related to climate.

The thing about that is that it can relatively easily be filtered by the user. Ten minutes of training and you never need to see it again, unless you want to. (Ok an occasional survey of the junk is useful to check that you havent missed anything important, but cranks are usually obviously cranks, and can be filtered with very little effort)

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Nov 22nd, 2009 at 11:20:52 AM EST
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