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The line was designed for 200 km/h. See here.

OK, if the track-builders say that, then indeed any higher speed must have been PR department fluff or early planning.

This was because of the derating of the transformer when operated with 17 Hz instead of 50 Hz.

This is an issue with the older TGV, including the Thalys (though those were modified to run on the Cologne-Düren line at full speed). The TGV POS, however, which in my memory were at one time supposed to come down from Mulhouse to Berne, got new transformers meant for 16.7Hz from the onset.

The trains operated first only with ASFA

...which was installed after Ansaldo's L2 tests didn't go well, resulting in a ten-month delay in the line's opening.

Maybe they want to wait till also the part between Llerida and Barcelona is ready.

Apparently. Many thanks for that link!

* Madrid-Lérida line has fullfilled all the internal tests. Line is fully ready (including Safety Dossier)

  • From May-Dec 2008 Siemens EVC has finished its internal test on this line (Stable EVC SW)...

  • Siemens validation tests and MFOM-ADIF-RENFE Complementary Test has been started. This process will end in July 2009.

  • The other lines are performing internal tests.


*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Tue Dec 22nd, 2009 at 03:09:39 PM EST
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The trains operated first only with ASFA

...which was installed after Ansaldo's L2 tests didn't go well, resulting in a ten-month delay in the line's opening.

Do you have any source for this? When was that?

by pcrail on Tue Dec 29th, 2009 at 11:56:36 AM EST
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This was from notes I took following Spanish media reports and some personal communication, so the links in the reconstruction below are ones I searched now (in the archive of a single paper). Some details are different. To sum up the events in short:

  1. After some other delays, the date for opening in regular service was finally set for 22 December 2002. For lack of own 300km/h+ trains, RENFE planned to lease ICE3 sets from DB.
  2. The inoperability of Ansaldo's ERTMS and the switch to ASFA was reported in January 2003, when the delay was still expected to be short. Also the failure of the DB ICE3 lease was announced, at the time, the (also abandoned) alternative plan was to use some of the TGV-derived AVE sets from the Madrid-Sevilla line.
  3. ASFA installation itself proved problematic. Regular service, with Altaria (locomotive-pulled Talgos) only, finally started on 11 October 2003.

Links (all in Spanish, I read them with help of Google translate):



*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Wed Dec 30th, 2009 at 07:11:06 AM EST
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