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Germany 1848.

Bismark and guns win.

Bismarck was an ambitious but minor politician in 1848. And I think the dynamics of 1848 is somewhat more complex then "guns win".

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by A swedish kind of death on Sun Dec 20th, 2009 at 05:20:55 PM EST
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Sigh. 14 years after the attempted revolution, the far right consolidates power and Bismarck settles into a long reign. If that's victory, give me defeat.
by rootless2 on Sun Dec 20th, 2009 at 06:16:42 PM EST
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Bismarck's tenure was hardly "far-right." He enacted some of the most sweeping social reforms of any Central European monarchies. Bismarck and his cronies may well have been far-right, but if a serious threat of revolution forced him to give concessions... well, concessions are concessions.

And let's not forget that the troubles in Germany in 1848 played a major role in the democratic constitutions of the Nordic countries.

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by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Sun Dec 20th, 2009 at 06:23:19 PM EST
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You mean the monarchists? But they were - in most cases in Germany - in power before the revolutions of 1848 too. In Prussia for example the king ruled in absolutist fashion.

So you could just as well describe 1848-1870 in Germany as two steps forward and one step back. The revolutionaries did not achieve a united liberal constitutional monarchy, instead they got (over time) a united conservative constitutional monarchy instead of the disunited, mainly conservative absolutist monarchies it preceeded.

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by A swedish kind of death on Sun Dec 20th, 2009 at 06:33:47 PM EST
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