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Well, let's put it like this. Gripen is the cheapest modern fighter in the world, but did we really need all of 200 of them (Finland and Norway have roughly 50 fighters each), and are they really useful when we haven't bought any weapons for them, when we don't let the pilots train in them and have decided to destroy the C3I-system? (as a matter of fact, due to a powerful blogging campaign, that last thing has just been stopped)

Currently, the armed forces are extremely badly managed. Extremely. I know plenty of people with a good insight in the actual sausage-making, and it's worse than you can imagine. We get zero effect from the money we spend. Zero.

This means we should either stop the expenditure (roughly 5 billion euros per annum) or completely restructure it, something the current government is doing its best to fool people they are doing, but actually aren't.

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.

by Starvid on Sat Dec 19th, 2009 at 07:15:54 PM EST
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I know plenty of people with a good insight in the actual sausage-making, and it's worse than you can imagine. We get zero effect from the money we spend. Zero.

I bet the FSB knows this just as well from its own sources in the sausage-making. But Russia doesn't invade, despite zero true military potential! So, perhaps, all of it is pointless?

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Sat Dec 19th, 2009 at 07:22:10 PM EST
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Russia is going to get themselves 4-6 Mistral class amphibious assault ships during the next few years, which will roughly make them 2-3 times as dangerous to Sweden as they were during the cold war. What's the hurry?

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Pointless? Certainly at the moment. The question cannot be allowed to be "should the status quo stand?". Either we must have a defence which works and spends tax money in an efficient way, or we should dismantle it entirely.

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.

by Starvid on Sat Dec 19th, 2009 at 07:25:59 PM EST
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This far we have dismantled all the capacity while maintained all the costs.

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.
by Starvid on Sat Dec 19th, 2009 at 07:30:56 PM EST
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Really, the Gripen program is one of the things that's actually relatively well managed. Under budget, before schedual. The real disasters are things like the Visby stealth corvette (in the water since 10 years, still no weapons beyond the 57 mm gun, helicopter doesn't fit in the helicopter bay), helicopter 14 (delayed 15 years, no fines payed because we forgot to specify that in the contract), this new communications systems which was just stopped by bloggers, all the NBF/RMA-shit (don't even ask - 5 years of work, 1 billion (euros) spent, total result: a few power point-slides). Of yes, and business management systems like SAP, PRIO, the new central storage depot, the total fucking up of the SSG120 armored mechanized mortar program, the AMV/SEP debacle, the list goes on and on and on. And on. I could keep on for hours really.

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.
by Starvid on Sat Dec 19th, 2009 at 07:22:32 PM EST
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And these are just equipment programs which while they are easy to critizise are far less important than the real deal: the number and efficiency of our combat brigades. Going from about 30 brigades and semi-ok efficiency (and another maybe 500 badly trained and equipped light batallions) we are now at 0 brigades at, ah, very high efficiency (and who knows how many light territorial batallions? Maybe 20...) . Or so they claim...

Mobilisation time is no longer 24 hours for frontline units and 7 days for total societal mobilisation, but 52 weeks (not days, not hours, but weeks) for the handful (8) of qualified "light manoeuvre battalions" we're supposed to have.

So mobilisation time has increased by more than 300 times, numbers are down by more than 95 % and costs are... the same.

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.

by Starvid on Sun Dec 20th, 2009 at 02:27:28 AM EST
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