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For whom is that even an option, really?  I mean, a real and serious option that they can actually choose and make real?  The modern economy seems intent on preventing as many people as possible from getting on a proper career track anyway - easier to deal with perpetual beginners.

And I've been a loser since I quit grad school.  Anything is better than grad school. <shudder>

by Zwackus on Wed Dec 30th, 2009 at 05:47:37 AM EST
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"For whom is that even an option, really? "

For quite a few, really.
If you are a schoolteacher, you can expect to be one in a while. Or a medical doctor. Or a plumber, an accountant, an electrician...

There really are quite a few jobs that you can hold for life -if you are the kind of person who will accept holding a job for life, that is. And I understand Miguel when he says he probably couldn't.

Earth provides enough to satisfy every man's need, but not every man's greed. Gandhi

by Cyrille (cyrillev domain yahoo.fr) on Wed Dec 30th, 2009 at 05:55:20 AM EST
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Mass Teacher Layoffs + Seniority Rules mean bad news for kids

New York City's fiscal mess means that massive budget cuts are simply unavoidable. Since teacher salaries represent a huge portion of the budget, it's always been clear that some teachers will need to go. According to Mayor Bloomberg, as many as 15,000 of them may be subject to emergency layoffs if state and federal aid are not forthcoming.

The rest of the article is right wing trash, but the headline makes the point well enough.

L.A. School Board recinds teacher layoff notices for 2000


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L.A. school board rescinds teacher layoff notices for nearly 2,000
April 14, 2009 |  3:05 pm

Teachers protesting their RIF notices hold red placards with tombstones prior to the special board meeting at the LAUSD headquarters in Los Angeles.

The Los Angeles Board of Education has just approved the easier of two key proposals it is scheduled to take up: It has formally rescinded layoff notices to nearly 2,000 tenured teachers.

The school board still faces the tougher call about whether to approve measures expected to result in more than 5,000 employees losing their jobs.

At this hour, board members are listening to entreaties from teachers, parents, union leaders and others who are imploring them to find another way to close a budget deficit of $596.1 million for next year.

Among the most impassioned voices was that of former school board member Jackie Goldberg, who had to approve an earlier generation of massive budget cuts in the early 1990s.

"If I could do it again, I would not have done what I did," she said. "I am asking you to be audacious. I am asking you to be irresponsible."

Goldberg said the district once had the finest music program in the country, and it never came back.

-- Howard Blume

Note the last line - this is not the first time.

Accounting is not immune either, though not in nearly as bad a situation as teaching.

Accounting losses represent the past, layoffs represent the future

Accounting losses report about actions that have been taken and the consequences of those actions. The announced layoffs, in the thousands, give us an indication of what is in store for us in the future. The announced layoffs mean:

    * Retail sales will continue to be soft. Say goodbye to Christmas volume, and hello to special sales, even before Thanksgiving.
    * Industrial production will continue to decline. Will foreign companies produce all cars in America?
    * There will be more declines in housing prices and increases in foreclosures - the American dream is on hold.
    * The wealth of Americans will continue to decline which will only mean, more layoffs.

Not only is Ben Bernanke speaking gloom and doom, but Hank Paulson is also now on record saying that a long and difficult period of economic retrenchment is what's in-store for the U.S. The amazing thing to me is how Paulson seems to carry out what ever seems to be on Bernanke's mind.

Plumbing is probably the safest bet.

by Zwackus on Wed Dec 30th, 2009 at 07:48:36 AM EST
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teachers and nurse are civil servants and are very hard to sack...

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Thu Dec 31st, 2009 at 07:53:33 AM EST
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In France, perhaps.  Less so in the USA, especially for nurses.

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Thu Dec 31st, 2009 at 01:57:14 PM EST
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