Changes in Bosnia? | 38 comments (38 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)

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Another answer for Talos is that, when the borders are redrawn, inevitably you'll have irredentist tendencies in the region.

C'mon.Don't you think borders in ex YU were a "little bit" redrawn? Irredentist tendencies on Balkan are there for centuries (and in ex YU even under Tito they couldn't be suppressed).
Why for the sake of me Western world have not insisted on ex-YU to stay in one piece if you did not want to redraw borders???

none of these countries have a standing army

What countries?

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by vbo on Mon Mar 16th, 2009 at 07:28:00 AM EST
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Why for the sake of me Western world have not insisted on ex-YU to stay in one piece if you did not want to redraw borders???

That is a really good question.

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by A swedish kind of death on Mon Mar 16th, 2009 at 09:26:15 AM EST
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vbo:

Don't you think borders in ex YU were a "little bit" redrawn?

Only in Bosnia. Elsewhere, pre-existing internal borders of Yugoslavia have been promoted to international borders.

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by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Mar 16th, 2009 at 09:38:55 AM EST
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Except for Kosovo which didn't have the status of a Republic - but a semi autonomous province within Serbia.

by vladimir on Mon Mar 16th, 2009 at 09:40:29 AM EST
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But the border of Kosovo wasn't redrawn either.

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by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Mar 16th, 2009 at 09:42:55 AM EST
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But then you can argue that for any province within Kosovo as well... if let's say the two northern regions of Kosovo were to secede and join Serbia or opt for independence.

Or within Macedonia, or Croatia, ...

by vladimir on Mon Mar 16th, 2009 at 10:01:40 AM EST
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Yes, that is true. Once Kosovo secedes there's no reason why the North of Kosovo cannot secede in its turn.

Or Istria from Croatia, for that matter.

Which is why "the international community" doesn't like to allow the redrawing of borders to begin with. Once you pop, there's no stop.

Most economists teach a theoretical framework that has been shown to be fundamentally useless. -- James K. Galbraith

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Mar 16th, 2009 at 10:06:14 AM EST
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You're crying over spilled milk, as anyone who has read my posts know how I would answer that one.

Next time, don't elect a bloody idiot like Milosevic.

by Upstate NY on Mon Mar 16th, 2009 at 10:33:58 AM EST
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Next time, don't elect a bloody idiot like Milosevic.

Or Tudjman or Izetbegovic...Miloshevic was only president of Serbia, Tudjman of Croatia...etc.They all wanted their way ...Milosevic wanted great Serbia, Tudjman wanted independant Croatia and also greater Croatia including Bosnian Croat teritories, Izetbegovic wanted Islamic state with Serbian and Croatian territories of Bosnia...etc.It wasn't just about Milosevic.
Why didn't you put them in one room and told them "we are not going to redraw borders.Full stop!"
Now the cat run out of the bag and as I said there is no way in the world that you'll redraw borders where it is convenient for you and make states where they do not exist (or wiliness for the state to exist is not there).
As Migeru said "Once you pop there is no stop".You poped.The biggest redraw of the map was when you willingly wiped Yugoslavia from the world map. Once you western people do not obey your very own laws (and rules) everything goes in to the shit. Same with this economic crises.Capitalism is doomed simply because of it!

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by vbo on Mon Mar 16th, 2009 at 07:13:17 PM EST
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Milosevic played it worse than they did.

Milosevic played his cards wrong.

Izebetgovic and Tudjman played it differently. They put in discriminatory laws that riled up the ethnic groups, and let the steam blow. Milosevic moved in the army. It was just a stupid thing to do.

by Upstate NY on Tue Mar 17th, 2009 at 11:46:23 AM EST
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Changes in Bosnia? | 38 comments (38 topical, 0 editorial, 0 hidden)

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