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I do not know why being accessed  in EU looks like a solution/remedy for every bloody "sickness" in Europe?
Maybe just because that would force peaceful solution. It will be very interesting how problem between Croatia and Slovenia will be resolved...EU membership did not solve problems in Spain ,,,or elsewhere...

Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind...Albert Einstein
by vbo on Mon Mar 16th, 2009 at 07:46:11 AM EST
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vbo:
EU membership did not solve problems in Spain
And you say that because...?

Most economists teach a theoretical framework that has been shown to be fundamentally useless. -- James K. Galbraith
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Mar 16th, 2009 at 08:00:17 AM EST
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Because separatist tendentious are still there and very alive...

Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind...Albert Einstein
by vbo on Mon Mar 16th, 2009 at 08:01:58 AM EST
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But that was not an obstacle to Spain's EEC accession.

Lots of problems that existed before 1986 have been solved by EEC accession.

The closest analogues to the situation between Slovenia and Croatia are Spain's territorial disputes with the UK over Gibraltar and with Portugal over Olivenza. Neither of the two were an obstacle to accession, neither has been resolved, and neither is a problem.

You might want to make parallels where there actually is a parallel.

Most economists teach a theoretical framework that has been shown to be fundamentally useless. -- James K. Galbraith

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Mar 16th, 2009 at 08:05:38 AM EST
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You misunderstood me.We were talking about Irredentist/separatist tendencies on Balkan and change of the borders.You said there will be no accession to EU soon.I just wanted to say that I don't see it as a way to solve those tendencies...Cause they are present in the countries that are already in EU ( like Spain).  

Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind...Albert Einstein
by vbo on Mon Mar 16th, 2009 at 08:23:58 AM EST
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I was simply responding to talos:
somehow I really think that EU expansion is closed for the foreseeable future


Most economists teach a theoretical framework that has been shown to be fundamentally useless. -- James K. Galbraith
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Mar 16th, 2009 at 08:30:05 AM EST
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Upss, sorry!

Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind...Albert Einstein
by vbo on Mon Mar 16th, 2009 at 08:59:46 AM EST
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I didn't make it clear by quoting him upthread...

Most economists teach a theoretical framework that has been shown to be fundamentally useless. -- James K. Galbraith
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Mar 16th, 2009 at 09:25:36 AM EST
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vbo:
It will be very interesting how problem between Croatia and Slovenia will be resolved
It won't. Slovenia's parliament may always refuse to ratify Croatia's accession treaty.

Most economists teach a theoretical framework that has been shown to be fundamentally useless. -- James K. Galbraith
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Mar 16th, 2009 at 08:02:11 AM EST
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How is this now OK?
It's a blackmailing...no chance for negotiations etc...

Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind...Albert Einstein
by vbo on Mon Mar 16th, 2009 at 08:04:49 AM EST
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It's a solution because you maximize the rights of individual people instead of putting them into collectives of one tribe against another.

I can give you a legion of examples of people abandoning their heritage, ethnicity and history in order to make a better life for themselves. Being in the EU means movement over borders, employment in hotspots, etc. That is indeed a panacea for the ethnic squabbles that ail the region. Open borders help.

by Upstate NY on Mon Mar 16th, 2009 at 10:32:34 AM EST
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