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I know i'm a noob but is wealth and economy something that existed before man or is all of its rules made up by man and not some divine being inherent in the world?

I just hear talk about the economy in the same way scientists talk about how we're destroying the environment.

The economy isn't a natural entity but rather a system that only works when all parties agree to how it works.

Credit is made up, money is made up, it's all made up.

Then again, what do I know?

 

"Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the Black Flag, and begin to slit throats."- H.L. Mencken

by Jacks Smirking Revenge on Sun Mar 22nd, 2009 at 03:36:10 AM EST
Welcome to Eurotrib JSR.

The questions you put - particularly the reference to the Divine - are material for a Diary that would undoubtedly give rise to the mother and father of all "pie-fights".

But as it's my Diary, you'll get my take.

Jacks Smirking Revenge:

is wealth and economy something that existed before man or is all of its rules made up by man and not some divine being inherent in the world?

All of the rules which govern our economic (and other) behaviour are agreements/protocols created by Man.

What motivates us to create them in the way we do is the key question: part of my motivation I share with Naoto Fukasawa

My motivation is to find the simple solution that everybody knows, but which doesn't yet exist

I am seeking answers to problems: a solution to the ultimate question, perhaps. I cannot bear to see things badly done - and that is one of the things which really pisses me off about the current system. It is complex, conflicted, and just plain ugly.

I have always strived to do the right thing, and to do no harm to anyone while doing it. Sadly, I've often failed, but I like to think I've learned from my mistakes along the way.

As for Divinity, I take a Non-Dualistic view. For me, there is one Reality, which many hold to be "God", and in which we are all part. And as the great physicist John Wheeler puts it

Reality is defined by the questions you put to it

Jacks Smirking Revenge:

The economy isn't a natural entity but rather a system that only works when all parties agree to how it works.

The Economy is simply a pattern created by Man upon Reality.

And the problem has been that the Economy has not worked for all of us because a minority have imposed one-way agreements (by state or judge made laws) on the rest of us by abuse of power relationships. So all parties have not been in agreement.

I believe that an economy and society will work if and when economic and social interaction takes place within "two way" consensual agreements, where, as you say, all parties agree.

Hence I have been banging my drum here on Eurotrib for the last couple of years in relation to (consensual) partnership-based legal and financial structures.

"The future is already here -- it's just not very evenly distributed" William Gibson

by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Sun Mar 22nd, 2009 at 06:33:53 AM EST
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All of the rules which govern our economic (and other) behaviour are agreements/protocols created by Man.

There are also the laws of physics to reckon with...

Most economists teach a theoretical framework that has been shown to be fundamentally useless. -- James K. Galbraith

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Mar 22nd, 2009 at 06:38:59 AM EST
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True, but when you use the word law you are implying certainty.....that way pie fights lie.... ;-)

"The future is already here -- it's just not very evenly distributed" William Gibson
by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Sun Mar 22nd, 2009 at 06:52:48 AM EST
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Thanks for a great laugh!!  

As to your question, I have no idea as to the divine origins of the economy, but I'm sure someone here will have the answer.

(still chuckling)

by jjellin on Sun Mar 22nd, 2009 at 12:04:39 PM EST
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