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The Sadism Report - Moon of Alabama

Working through the quite detailed and long sadism and torture report Inquiry Into the Treatment of Detainees in U.S. Custody" (pdf) the most significant admission to me is the footnote 1219 on page 158:

Notwithstanding differences between the legal status of detainees held in Iraq and those in Afghanistan, the [Special Mission Unit Task Force] used the same interrogation approaches in both theaters. In addition, the [Combined Joint Task Force 7] interrogation policies included techniques that had been authorized for use at GTMO. By September 2003, interrogation approaches initially authorized for a war in which the President had determined that the protections of the Geneva Conventions did not apply, would be authorized for all U.S. forces in Iraq.

Abu Ghraib was not an accident but official policy promoted from the very top and many people knew that.

by Fran on Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 at 02:17:52 PM EST
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I bought a bargain basement trio of action/sci-fi films for brainless entertainment over the Easter holidays.  We watched the last one tonight-Independence Day.

What's stuck in my mind now is the image of the Will Smith character dragging, verbally abusing and taking out his frustrations on by kicking, his alien captive.  What's more, it's meant to be funny, and, since I don't remember it from the first time round, maybe back in 1997 I laughed along with everybody else.

I feel a bit sick now. We are the stories we tell ourselves.

by Sassafras on Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 at 06:17:15 PM EST
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Hm. Back then in 1997, I felt sick about the film just based on the trailers. I saw it only a few years ago on TV, and I want those two hours back.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Thu Apr 23rd, 2009 at 06:04:40 AM EST
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In all these alien invasion sci-fis, I can't get over the following idiocies:

  1. Why would an alien race with super-duper techologies need anything from humans?

  2. Why would these aliens be biologically similar to us?

  3. Why would these biologically similar aliens consider humans the main problem, rather than bacteria and viruses? (THat applies even to Welles's War of Worlds: why would they not know this danger in advance?...)


*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Thu Apr 23rd, 2009 at 06:08:46 AM EST
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Alien Invasion sci-fi is a sublimation of fear of human invasion by the enemy du jour.

Most economists teach a theoretical framework that has been shown to be fundamentally useless. -- James K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Apr 23rd, 2009 at 06:20:39 AM EST
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And a potential peace-maker...

(Exhibit A: Reagan & Gorbi; Exhibit B: from what I read on Wiki, the cartoon original of the IMO excellent Watchmen movie.)

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Thu Apr 23rd, 2009 at 06:41:02 AM EST
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Things like the Invasion of the Body Snatchers and alien abduction in general (especially when abductees are subjected to mind-control or brainwashing, usuall through neural implants) is a sublimation of fear of foreign infiltration.

It is not a coincidence that these genres have their heyday at the peak of cold-war paranoia in the US in the 1950's.

Most economists teach a theoretical framework that has been shown to be fundamentally useless. -- James K. Galbraith

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Apr 23rd, 2009 at 06:46:32 AM EST
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In fact, many if not most sentient beings and societies in SF are a sublimation of some humans or societies as we (resp. the writer) know them here and now. While some of that is superb, I am not fond of the idea of SF as a mere analogy. That would make it an exercise in collective autism.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Thu Apr 23rd, 2009 at 06:57:20 AM EST
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Now, the question is whether (and how) Soviet-bloc science fiction themes from the cold war differ from American ones.

Anglo-American post-apocalyptic sci-fi (peaking in the 60's) has to do with the fear of nuclear war, but often this is expressed in stories about mass mortality from disease or ecological failure.

Most economists teach a theoretical framework that has been shown to be fundamentally useless. -- James K. Galbraith

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Apr 23rd, 2009 at 07:00:52 AM EST
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It is too early for it to be up on YouTube, but Keith Olberman had an interview with Janis Karpinski, the retired U.S. Army Brigadier General in charge of Abu Ghraib.  The general generally excoriated Rumsfield, Cheney and Bush for allowing the scapegoating of the "bad apples" under her command, some of whom are now doing time, when it is now public knowledge that they were operating under orders to employ newly designed "enhanced interrogation techniques" which were developed at the direction of and delivered by representatives of the  very top echelons of the Bush Administration, including Cheney, Wolfowitz and Rumsfield.  In effect, she asked, if these techniques were so important to national security why did not these worthies stand up and say that these soldiers were following their orders.

Rachel Maddow then "disambiguates" the origin of those orders and their purpose by citing the now vastly more complete public record to show that the new techniques were developed from US military training procedures designed to familiarize pilots and others likely to be captured with techniques to which they might be subjected.  She noted that these techniques were understood to have been used by the Chinese Communist regime to obtain false confessions for propaganda purposes and the purpose of exposing U.S. servicemen to them was to enable them better to resist them and "return home with honor."

She notes that the urgency to deploy these techniques peaked before there were any prisoners on whom to use them, that the FBI, who had an excellent record of getting cooperation from and convictions of prisoners such as those involved in the '94 bombing of the World Trade Center had objected to and withdrawn from all of these interrogations, and makes a clear case that they were employed deliberately and specifically to create  false confessions corroborating the Bush Administration's justifications for preemptive war in Iraq.

Karpinski: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677#30356123

The Maddow segment, (the first segment) is not up yet.  The link is to the interview on Tuesday with Phillip Zelikow, a former State Department Attorney, who wrote a memo explaining why the use of the new techniques was a bad idea.  The Bush Administration attemped to retrieve and destroy all copies.

Maddow:http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#30335366

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."

by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 at 11:22:08 PM EST
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Diary?

Most economists teach a theoretical framework that has been shown to be fundamentally useless. -- James K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Apr 23rd, 2009 at 04:44:16 AM EST
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AP:
Rice OK'd CIA waterboard request

WASHINGTON (AP) -- As national security adviser to former President George W. Bush, Condoleezza Rice verbally approved the CIA's request to subject alleged al-Qaida terrorist Abu Zubaydah to waterboarding in July 2002, the earliest known decision by a Bush administration official to OK use of the simulated drowning technique.

The new timeline shows that Rice played a greater role than she admitted last fall in written testimony to the Senate Armed Services Committee.

The narrative also shows that dissenting legal views about the severe interrogation methods were brushed aside repeatedly.
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We all remember how Dr Rice bristled at the suggestion that US had lost its high moral ground. Now we have proof of her hypocrisy. Is it the start of unravelling of Bush administration misdeeds or just damage control exercise to absolve Bush and Cheney?

by FarEasterner on Thu Apr 23rd, 2009 at 04:39:20 AM EST
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