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I suppose you mean to deny that there actually is a living creature in there, whose life is stopped during the procedure.

That is also true for slaughtering a pig or sterilising a chicken egg. Doesn't make either of those murder.

Sorry, no points. Please try again.

- Jake

Friends come and go. Enemies accumulate.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Tue Jun 2nd, 2009 at 05:35:18 PM EST
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also end this sub-thread, please, guys!

Jerome is debating the "terrorist" on the front page...
As I said above, it had been an issue that religion in the political debate was undesired at ET, well, that was before this murder made the headlines.

It has become clear that religion cannot be excluded from the political debate on ET.

It would be possible, if no political affairs within religious contexts were ever debated at ET.

 

by Lily (put - lilyalmond - here <a> yahaah.france) on Tue Jun 2nd, 2009 at 06:13:02 PM EST
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heh, wasn't it you who said that conflict was interesting?

it's fascinating seeing how much education there is in the argument, bringing the best out of folks' reasoning.

it's as lovely as hearing a guitar being tuned.

exploring dissonance and then twisting the pegs...

'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Wed Jun 3rd, 2009 at 09:51:27 AM EST
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Religion as a justification for public policy has no place in rational discourse.

Religion as a social phenomenon is clearly important and should be analysed, deconstructed and understood.

Arguing that abortion is wrong because your religious text says so is an example of the former. Noting that the American fascist movement congregates around a number of extremist Calvinist churches is an example of the latter.

- Jake

Friends come and go. Enemies accumulate.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Thu Jun 4th, 2009 at 04:47:00 AM EST
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