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Nice summing up of the previous debate.

Concerning point A, if the site should grow, with the possible advantages that would bring (like wider reach, influence) and disadvantages (the loss of a certain coffeshop feeling, or conviviality; unmanageability ?). I came to realize that huge websites, if they happen to lose on the conviviality side, they gain on the neutrality one; in the sense that someone who doesn't particularly seek self promotion will find it easier to join a bigger site, where it's harder to feel as if everybody else is on the exact same lengthwave, and the communion of values and opinions reached such depth through repeated debates in the regulars' circle, that the newcomer risks to be welcomed with

  1. a statement in the line: "we've debated this here several times before", with the more or less obvious implication that a conclusion, one way or another (if not a consensus), has already been reached, and now there is little else left to add to it
  2. a strong feeling of political correctness


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by ValentinD (walentijn arobase free spot franša) on Sat May 30th, 2009 at 07:08:42 AM EST
Well maybe I should nuance this, risks to be welcomed with, or to feel as such. There is little difference in practice. In any case, this is what I tried to attract the attention upon with one of my last posts on the other "encore" thread. Poemless replied, and justifiedly so: "it looks like you are picking a fight in order to validate your claims.  It's inside-out logic."  I agree that that was an inflamatory phrase that I should have avoided. On the other hand, I meant it as a caricature of how things seem to go sometimes. (and by the way provoking Jerome would be pointless, he obviously knows how to deal with such characters, and puts out his "I don't care" reply :) )

More seriously, there can be conviviality on much bigger sites, the difference is that it happens punctually, at thread level, on certain topics, and not at site level. Bigger sites look (and I think are) more open, because they make it harder for people to aggregate into one relatively small community and act as such. This is why it is in my view preferable  - and in ET interest as well, especially from an influence viewpoint.

Free at last! Free at last! Thank God Almighty, we are free at last! (Martin Luther King)

by ValentinD (walentijn arobase free spot franša) on Sat May 30th, 2009 at 07:17:46 AM EST
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Yes, we have a conventional wisdom. I don't think that's a bad thing, per se, but we could get better at using it right.

The point of saying "this is something we've discussed before" is not to say "this conversation is closed." Rather, it should be read as "don't be surprised if your arguments have been made before." If that's not apparent, then obviously we have a communication problem.

- Jake

Friends come and go. Enemies accumulate.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Mon Jun 1st, 2009 at 01:36:20 PM EST
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