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Show us a paranormal phenomena.  Show us a god.

show the fish the water!

the whole universe is mostly unexplained phenomena, isn't it?

it's great how we've sussed so much out, but doesn't it pale compared to what we don't know?  

'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Wed Jun 3rd, 2009 at 11:31:09 AM EST
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unexplained phenomena

Which are very different to unexplainable phenomena (whose existence I do not admit).
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Jun 3rd, 2009 at 11:34:43 AM EST
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it's great how we've sussed so much out, but doesn't it pale compared to what we don't know?  

I'd be interested to know how you know that. isn't the amount we dont know in essence unknowable? It might be that science is complete next week, we just don't know.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Thu Jun 4th, 2009 at 11:22:52 AM EST
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What we don't know is a non-computable set, isn't it? Even if it were complete you might not know.

The brainless should not be in banking. — Willem Buitler
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jun 4th, 2009 at 11:25:10 AM EST
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<giggle>
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Thu Jun 4th, 2009 at 11:27:05 AM EST
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yes definitely.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Thu Jun 4th, 2009 at 11:27:05 AM EST
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you said i know that, really it's just an idea, not original!

i find that's what history suggests. it took us so long to discover the earth was round, or that the sun was the centre of our galaxy, now we have begun to realise how deep space is, how can anyone think we have done more than scratch the surface, i don't understand.

even the workings of our own brains are only beginning to come dimly into view.

if you'd shown a neanderthal an ipod, and asked him how to get from there to here, he would probably strike two flints together and say, does it start with this?

he was probably pretty stoked with that science already, lol.

so extrapolating, if we are still neanderthals in some respects, doesn't it follow that the best discoveries will always lie ahead? as we discover more about how to discover, and correlate theories with proof.

there may have been a neanderthal whose eyes would have lit up, as he hustled off to find some beryllium or whatever to get started on his ipod project, or he may have gone, 'cool idea, but at this rate it'll take thousands more years to make one', and of course he'd be right!

some people are blessed with more imagination than their reality can contain, others just shut it down, it's just too painful to think of what we could be as a species, ( i_really don't like the word 'race'_) then look around at what we've become.

'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Fri Jun 5th, 2009 at 08:02:25 AM EST
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i find that's what history suggests.

In the matter of the rate of accumulation of scientific knowledge, as in the matter of price movements on the stock exchange, the past does not predict the future with any great accuracy.

- Jake

Friends come and go. Enemies accumulate.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Sat Jun 6th, 2009 at 07:15:18 AM EST
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that's true, but i don't think great accuracy is really necessary here.

after all, i'm investing in it time, thought and imagination, not hard cash, like the stock market!

'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 05:44:54 PM EST
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