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Jeffersonian Democrat:
patriotism is a loyalty to ideals that unites a country, regardless of individual differences.

The UK's ideals are hating wogs and pakis and towelheads and - er - British bulldog, Winston, we won the war, rule Britannia, St George's cross out of the window and down the pub.

Actually I doubt that many US 'patriots' are any more sophisticated than that in practice. Wave the stars and stripes and off they go on a crusade. (Or a tirade.)

The point is that ideals don't need to be complicated. And they certainly don't need to make sense.

All you really need for patriotism is a sense of identity and participation and the possibility of pride - which could be a positive force, but is easily subverted. The BNP are perfectly positioned to exploit the fact that the other parties have almost eliminated bottom-up participation.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Wed May 6th, 2009 at 07:53:40 PM EST
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Well that may be Englands, but i think the Welsh and Scots would take exception to that UK characterisation.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Wed May 6th, 2009 at 09:40:24 PM EST
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