Welcome to European Tribune. It's gone a bit quiet around here these days, but it's still going.
Don't buy the snarky "if it was so effective why did they do it 183 times".  It is good for snark to illustrate the real problem, but I don't want people to get lost in "it's not effective".  It's very effective for the actually purpose of totally eliminating a persons willpower and personality.

...Which implies to my mind that it was never really about gaining information.

This is a totally new perspective for me. I hope you post the follow-up diaries as well.

The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman

by dvx (dvx.clt št gmail dotcom) on Wed May 6th, 2009 at 04:28:45 PM EST

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