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If the Eurosceptic states are alienated and trying to leave anyway and/or sabotage what's already there, what difference would it make?

But it depends on what 'meddlesome' means in practice.

Media and cultural positivity is not the same as political pressure. This isn't about speechifying and posterating, it's about creating a positive image of the EU which voters can personally identify with.

That process shouldn't mention politics at all. If it's cultural and apolitical it's not meddling. (Well, it is, but it doesn't look like it which makes it much harder to challenge.)

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Tue Jun 9th, 2009 at 04:34:27 AM EST
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ThatBritGuy:
But it depends on what 'meddlesome' means in practice.
Oh, nothing dramatic. But we're talking media narratives, right?
If the Eurosceptic states are alienated and trying to leave anyway and/or sabotage what's already there, what difference would it make?
Not a whole lot, except whether the narrative is that the Eurosceptic states left on their own or were pushed out.

I think they'll leave eventually.

The brainless should not be in banking. — Willem Buiter

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jun 9th, 2009 at 04:44:09 AM EST
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We're talking media, certainly.

One of the most depressing things in the UK is the way in which culture has been completely colonised by the US. It's so pervasive it's part of the background noise, and no one notices.

A trivial example - at a local open microphone night, with exactly one exception, all of the singers sang with a fake US accent.

One even sang a song he'd written about Vietnam, even though I'm pretty sure the closest he'd ever been to Vietnam was his DVD copy of Apocalypse Now.

30-40 years a folk night would have British folk songs - some of which are aggressively socialist and populist - and people would have dared to sing them with a British accent.

Now we have an endless wave of poor Bob Dylan clones.

That's what I mean by meddling. Of course, there's no Central Secratariat of Cultural Propaganda in the US which has made this happen. (Or maybe there is - I don't know.)

But if it's subtle enough, it happens by osmosis. And it has a huge effect on what people who absorb culture and media are able to imagine about the world.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Tue Jun 9th, 2009 at 08:38:53 AM EST
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