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This discussion is important precisely because the NO campaign in Ireland use the EJC jurisdiction argument as a reason for voting No to Lisbon.  See Lisbon Treaty referendum - The Irish Times - Thu, Jul 02, 2009

The Treaty of Lisbon is a legal document and is subject to interpretation by the European Court of Justice (ECJ). In many cases, it will only be when a case relating to this treaty comes before the ECJ, and is ruled on, can one say what is fact and what is not. This is the case with all legal documents but especially in the case of the Lisbon Treaty which is especially tortuous in its wording.

The European Court of Justice has in the past been described as "a court with a mission" and that mission is to advance the further integration of the countries of the European Union.

If the Treaty is passed, some of the claims by the No side, derided as "outlandish" by Lucinda Creighton, may well come to pass at a future date if the ECJ decides to so rule as a means of furthering the further integration of EU nations.

However, if you don't like the EJC you shouldn't be in the EU at all, as the EJC has jurisdiction over all the Treaties we have signed up to.  This is therefore, more accurately, an argument against EU membership, not the Lisbon Treaty per se.

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Fri Jul 3rd, 2009 at 10:49:38 AM EST
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Madam, - Paul Williams (Letters, 2nd. July) writes that "If the [Lisbon] Treaty is passed, some of the claims by the No side, derided as "outlandish" by Lucinda Creighton, may well come to pass at a future date if the ECJ decides to so rule as a means of furthering the further integration of EU nations."

However the European Court of Justice (ECJ) has had jurisdiction over all EU Treaties since it's foundation in 1952 and has had an Irish Judge as a member since our accession in 1973. Perhaps Mr. Williams might like to give some previous examples of it's "outlandish" judgements in furtherance of EU integration.

It should also be noted that the Lisbon Treaty doesn't change the jurisdiction of the ECJ in any way, so an argument against the ECJ is an argument against membership of the EU, not the Lisbon Treaty per se.  So is it really our EU membership that Mr. Williams has a problem with?

notes from no w here

by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Fri Jul 3rd, 2009 at 11:16:39 AM EST
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