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Nice dream, but it ain't gonna happen.

...but first a wave of primaries were won on promises paid for by retreating from this or that piece of foreign soil, and then a wave of general election victories won, on both the right and the left....

We aren't going to get a Congress that isn't owned and operated by MegaCorp until the general populace acts on something other than the shrieking points of the punditocracy for longer than six months.  Good luck.

A disaster, another Lyon Bombing, except in LA, and it might have all come apart.

Far more likely than an independent Congress or a rationally active electorate, unfortunately.

And so US machine tool exports boomed....

How?  Everyone knows what kind of condition our manufacturing infrastructure is in these days, but the real crisis is the condition our skilled labor force has been in for over three decades.  And it isn't like those students you have coming to the US will be filling tool-and-die jobs.

The US slipped toward into a recession in 2011, but was pulled out again in 2012 by the export surge.

Huh?  I'm not following what we're exporting.  We have some minerals, we have timber, we have agricultural commodities (although we're now a net food importer), and we have weapons.  That doesn't make for much of an economic boom.

And its not like the new media in 2011 played the positive role that it now remembers.

Given that no one has yet come up with an on-line business model that allows people to make a living reporting news, I don't see a replacement for infotainment any time soon.  Consequently, I don't see an informed electorate any time soon.  Consequently....

by rifek on Mon Sep 28th, 2009 at 01:13:41 PM EST
... rather than unlikelihood, since the fictional author himself argues that what fictionally happened was, in fiction, unlikely.

We aren't going to get a Congress that isn't owned and operated by MegaCorp until the general populace acts on something other than the shrieking points of the punditocracy for longer than six months.  Good luck.

That's not a premise of the mini-utopia. If it involved a Congress that was not owned and operated by Big Business, it would be a far-more-than-mini-utopia. The premise is, rather, that there is a shift in the interests of Big Business and some faction is prepared to throw some other faction to the wolves to maintain their own position. The mini-utopia is based on the public knowledge of events - its no an insider account.

Since, after all, ownership of the US Federal Government by Big Business is more like a city government that is owned by the mob than like being a wholly owned subsidiary of some particular corporation - unless we are to believe the mega-conspiracy network of Illuminati story as opposed to the normal historical pattern of those in privileged positions using those positions in part to maintain their privilege.

In a falling out among thieves, it may be unlikely that the MIC Complex would end up holding the short straw, but its not impossible.

How?  Everyone knows what kind of condition our manufacturing infrastructure is in these days, but the real crisis is the condition our skilled labor force has been in for over three decades.  And it isn't like those students you have coming to the US will be filling tool-and-die jobs.

No, certainly not. The foreign students in the mini-utopia scenario are coming to the US, living high on the hog, and then going home to get real jobs earning real currency, like the Euro or the Yuan. The decline in the skilled workforce due to the decline in jobs that make use of skilled workers does not imply a lack of capacity to put existing production facilities to work meeting hard currency orders, nor any shorter of workers willing to acquire the skills if there is the promise of a better than bargain basement dead end job at the end of the process.

Huh?  I'm not following what we're exporting.  We have some minerals, we have timber, we have agricultural commodities (although we're now a net food importer), and we have weapons.  That doesn't make for much of an economic boom.

We have the capacity to make other things, even if in pursuing an overvalued exchange rate for the benefit of large corporations using US$ capital markets we don't tap that capacity as much as we should. And of course in the above there is substantial export opportunities - each bushel of maize that is not wasted as cattle feed in feedlots is a bushel of maize that is available for export markets. Very early on in the mini-utopia there is a substantial shift in the balance of benefit between exporting grains and using them to produce a massive oversupply of meat to keep Americans massively overweight.

Given that no one has yet come up with an on-line business model that allows people to make a living reporting news, I don't see a replacement for infotainment any time soon.  Consequently, I don't see an informed electorate any time soon.  Consequently....

If only 30% of the population is at a rational or better level of consciousness with respect to political activity, a media that is acting as a source of information for a hypothetical informed electorate would only be a marginal influence in any event. Evidently, whatever the more positive role the fictitious author new media as playing in 2013, 2014 and 2015, it would have to be something that would also have some positive influence for people engaged in magical, power, and mythic thinking wrt politics as well.


I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.

by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Mon Sep 28th, 2009 at 03:55:12 PM EST
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