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Re: Freedom to oppress? (none / 0)

I don't "demand" any "proof of innocence". I've said that "I'd like to hear the point of view of the girls and women who are first and foremost affected by the situation." And you and I seem to agree.

Speaking of women's PoV: am I the only one having noticed that this diary and the whole comment thread so far is 100% male? What does it say about us?

by Bernard (bernard) on Wed Jan 27th, 2010 at 09:11:02 AM EST
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Re: Freedom to oppress? (4.00 / 2)

ET has scared all the girls away from such conversations?

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.

by poemless on Wed Jan 27th, 2010 at 10:14:08 AM EST
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Re: Freedom to oppress? (none / 0)

Since you're here, what is your opinion on the matter at hand?

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jan 27th, 2010 at 10:26:59 AM EST
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Re: Freedom to oppress? (none / 0)

Heh. You want my opinion, or a reasoned argument? My "opinion" is that the proposed ban is chauvinistic xenophobic sexist bs . But how to make a reasoned argument against, "vous n'êtes pas français... vous ne pouvez pas le comprendre...", I do not know. I actually am French. Fortunately the country to which my French ancestors immigrated has allowed us to keep wearing berets as a symbol of our militant coolness. ;)

On a serious note, this pretty much sums up my thoughts on the matter:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/28/opinion/28iht-edgopalan.html

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.

by poemless on Wed Jan 27th, 2010 at 11:56:57 AM EST
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Re: Freedom to oppress? (none / 0)

I'm still scared, FWIW.

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.

by poemless on Wed Jan 27th, 2010 at 11:57:19 AM EST
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Re: Freedom to oppress? (none / 0)

This is not about a fashion faux pas or women's rights, but about sending a message to Muslims. Concerned with increasingly visible numbers of Muslims openly practicing their way of life while enjoying the privileges of life in the West, French citizens and politicians alike feel that they need to restore "Frenchness" to their streets.

This is stupid and ignorant. "increasingly visible numbers of Muslims"?? WTF is he talking about?

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Thu Jan 28th, 2010 at 02:25:52 AM EST
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Sarko dog-whistles and the left hum along. As usual. | 67 comments (67 topical, 0 editorial, 0 hidden)

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