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Sorry, schizophrenia has nothing to do with sociopathy.
Schizophrenia has a clear epigenetic origin plus some biological element (not necessarily genes). It is present in almost every culture and it always appears at the time of maximum stress in any given culture. It is a clear Main/Brain /Culture product.

On the other hand sociopathy has nothing to do with loose genes or anything similar.. here culture drives the brain.. that simple. The number of cultures with no sociopathy can be counted on the hundreds... The biological  predispositions may exist .. but are practically irrelevant. There are hundreds upon hundreds of studies on anthropology and pshychology about that. The main driving force of sociopathy are myths and social structure (as Delong said there were no sociopaths among any tribe/group before the development of hierarchical agriculture).

A pleasure

I therefore claim to show, not how men think in myths, but how myths operate in men's minds without their being aware of the fact. Levi-Strauss, Claude

by kcurie on Mon Oct 18th, 2010 at 04:21:39 PM EST
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I agree the two pathologies are different, with different etiologies.  I disagree there is no neurological component/basis for sociopathic behavior.  There are clinical histories of patients with dysfunctional sociopathy who exhibited symptoms as children , before socialization and enculturation processes are complete.  

I went through this exact discussion about schizophrenia during the heyday of Behaviorism and Freud.  They pointed to "hundreds of studies from anthropology and psychology" proving (sic) Bateson's (et.al.) Double Bind Theory.  Doubt many people take it seriously in 2010.

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Tue Oct 19th, 2010 at 08:58:40 PM EST
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I'll make a distinction between clinical sociopathy, which is based on faulty neurology, and quasi-sociopathy. The latter appears when social feedback loops reward sociopathic behaviour, and also disguise the consequences of sociopathic decisions.

Profit and loss accounting is a good example of how consequences are hidden. The numbers can hide a multitude of horrors, but as they're 'only numbers' the individuals who deal with them never have to encounter those horrors personally, or the effects they have on the people who fall victim to them.

But the way to highlight this is to find new ways to tell those stories. Activist language tends to convince activists, but rebounds off those who aren't so politically minded.

This is an excellent message, but packaged amateurishly, making it easy to ignore.

A more professional effort would be an interesting thing.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Wed Oct 20th, 2010 at 04:33:13 PM EST
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