Welcome to European Tribune. It's gone a bit quiet around here these days, but it's still going.
Display:
Are communicating their total lack of knowledge of scripture, meditation (whatever its form) and in general, the essence of religion

Why must you believe and follow if you have knowledge of scripture or the essence of religion? that seems to me to be an enormous assumption on your part. If you've read the books and historical arguments and find them faulty might you not come to an entirely different understanding of religion?

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Wed Oct 20th, 2010 at 04:15:28 PM EST
[ Parent ]
You certainly don't have to believe. But you'll know enough about the essence of religion so as not to treat it as an "evil".
by Lynch on Wed Oct 20th, 2010 at 04:39:17 PM EST
[ Parent ]
No you won't.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Oct 20th, 2010 at 04:45:33 PM EST
[ Parent ]
That just proves what a closed mind you have.
by Lynch on Fri Oct 22nd, 2010 at 01:29:33 AM EST
[ Parent ]
You presume that you know more about the subject than Colman simply because he disagrees with your conclusions?

Or do you perhaps have an argument that extends beyond your say-so? Preferably one that doesn't involve lying about what some prominent figure said or did not say. Checking all your quotes gets somewhat tiresome after a while.

- Jake

Friends come and go. Enemies accumulate.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Fri Oct 22nd, 2010 at 05:24:49 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Colman affirms that reading (thus knowing) Christian Holy Scripture wouldn't in any way change his mind that this scripture is inherently EVIL. This Holy Scripture inspired 15-20, perhaps 25 billion people (all generations since the 8th century to today) to produce some of the most stunning architecture, music, visual arts, literature and philosophy in the Western world. But for Colman, it's all about EVIL. 1 smart guy out of 20 billion idiots. No doubts. 100% certain. Arrogant? Spot on.

I have no comment regarding your other baseless accusations.

by Lynch on Fri Oct 22nd, 2010 at 01:51:22 PM EST
[ Parent ]
That wasn't what Colman said.

You claimed that calling a religion evil implied ignorance of its scriptures. Or, making the same statement in a slightly different order, reading a religion's scriptures automatically makes you believe that it is not evil. Otherwise, you asserted, one is "close-minded."

Now, there's a couple of different reasons why simply reading a religion's scriptures might not suffice to convince an open-minded person that said religion is not evil. First and simplest, the scriptures might be evil. This is the case for the pseudo-economic doctrines of the so-called "Austrian School," for instance. The more thoroughly an open-minded person reads their scriptures, the more liable he is to become disgusted with them and renounce their creed as evil.

Second, a religion's scriptures are a minor and on the whole uninteresting part of it. They certainly cannot in and of themselves redeem a religion that should be condemned on its actions and practises. Even if Dianetics were the most beautiful literature ever written, it would not change the fact that Scientology is a Ponzi scam with a bad attitude.

- Jake

Friends come and go. Enemies accumulate.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Fri Oct 22nd, 2010 at 02:16:03 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Of course.
Except that this diary is neither about Scientology nor Dianetics.
It's about Christianity.
by Lynch on Sat Oct 23rd, 2010 at 11:03:00 AM EST
[ Parent ]
No it's not about "Christianity", try again.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sat Oct 23rd, 2010 at 11:06:02 AM EST
[ Parent ]
I could go back over the last five to ten comments in this particular exchange and highlight all the places where you made general claims about religion. But I feel entirely comfortable with allowing the reader to peruse this thread at his leisure and form his own opinion on the contents.

- Jake

Friends come and go. Enemies accumulate.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Sat Oct 23rd, 2010 at 11:36:14 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Yes, Scholasticism was such a win compared to that mindless gibbering the Greeks produced.

The Middle Ages were also known for the breathtaking sophistication of their sculpture, drama, music, visual arts, technology and mathematics.

In reality idiot theocracy held back development by a millennium or so. It wasn't until the Greeks were rediscovered that Western culture started moving again.

True, some of the cathedrals aren't bad, although the architecture is obviously a descendant of imperial Roman building traditions.

It's a shame the people who built them were confused.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Fri Oct 22nd, 2010 at 02:29:33 PM EST
[ Parent ]
That would be making entirely unwarranted assumptions

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Wed Oct 20th, 2010 at 04:48:04 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Display:

Top Diaries

Occasional Series