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Get back to me when your one loving god (not belief in your god, but the gal herself) actually displays any noticeable impact on the income distribution of a country, on the global availability of raw materials, on the technical competence of our engineers or in some other noticeable way improves upon or detracts from the survivability, comfort and pleasure of the human condition.

I have been quarrelling with something recently, and a friend of mine told me, "Sometimes we forget how HOLY our God is." A God who has created this World with plenty of beauty and us in it, thinking, feeling, intelligent, how can He be any less than the sum of it and us all?

You cannot understand God when you look from this side, from creation, only. You're bright but limited. We all are limited in space and time. We sit on gravity and live until we die. Our senses are under a veil. We can only see so and so far. And we judge from what we can experience with our five senses but is this all that exists?

No. There's a deeper meaning but you must accept that God is not a blog buddy. The plan on His mind is so much bigger than (y)our understanding.

At the same time, God is not distant and faraway. That's the good news.

Until and unless that happens, I'll be working with the people and tools that are known to be capable of improve the human condition. There are many pursuits that are, in my considered opinion, much more urgent than

Very good. But one thing doesn't exclude the other. You can do what you feel is needed here and now AND experience God at the same time or become aware of how you're experiencing God already.

speculating on the existence of an entity that does not deign to reveal itself to even the most refined tools of detection available to industrial civilisation.

:) Fortunately, our God is the God of all times and not just the one of industrial civilisation. Since the power is on His side rather than on yours, you can only seek and meet Him on His terms - through faith and prayer, and not even the most refined tools of modern communication available are of any help. They're just toys.

by Lily (put - lilyalmond - here <a> yahaah.france) on Wed Oct 27th, 2010 at 06:19:23 PM EST
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You cannot understand God when you look from this side, from creation, only. You're bright but limited. We all are limited in space and time. We sit on gravity and live until we die. Our senses are under a veil. We can only see so and so far. And we judge from what we can experience with our five senses but is this all that exists?

That's cute, but it will not help me remove the smog from Tunis and it will not help ensure that all Algerians have electricity.

I'm a simple man with simple desires. I just want everybody to have shelter from the elements, clean air, clean water, wholesome food and electricity. If all of humanity has those things before I die, I'll die happy. If, on my deathbed, I can in perfect honesty say that I helped make sure that more people have those things than would otherwise have had them, I'll die happy.

God won't help me accomplish those things. Engineers will, politicians can and bankers might.

:) Fortunately, our God is the God of all times and not just the one of industrial civilisation. Since the power is on His side rather than on yours, you can only seek and meet Him on His terms - through faith and prayer, and not even the most refined tools of modern communication available are of any help. They're just toys.

That's cute. But faith and prayer will not recover a single gram of iron, it will not create a single ball bearing and it will not lay a single meter of railway. Nor will neglecting faith and prayer obstruct the recovery of a single gram of iron, obstruct the creation of a single ball bearing or obstruct the laying of a single meter of railway.

So I fail to see why I should make allowances for it.

- Jake

Friends come and go. Enemies accumulate.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Wed Oct 27th, 2010 at 07:49:06 PM EST
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"gibber, gibber".

Fairy tales.

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Thu Oct 28th, 2010 at 02:56:20 AM EST
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